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Offline JohnnyBravo32

Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« on: August 21, 2016, 01:51:02 PM »
How many z force owners would have interest in a turbo kit for the machine? An easy to install turbo kit. To get some more power out of that v twin. Just curious if this would sell if it made affordable for people.

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Offline chuddly

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2016, 07:08:03 AM »
A lot it will depend on price and the gains.  There just isnt enough information in your post for us to make a decision if it would be worth buying.  If its $5000 for 10 hp then thats not really worth it.  If its $1000 for 30 hp then you will have people beating down your door.  Not the next question that would have to be answered is will the belt/clutch hold up to the power?  I for one would love more power but not at the expense of roasting my belt every 100 miles.
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Offline gfmoto

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2016, 08:19:29 AM »
Exactly,  usually adding a turbo to anything requires more than JUST strapping on a turbo. As everything in he engine has more stress on it that wasn't accounted for during production. Id say you'd have to do some clutch work and a stronger belt. And add a fuel controller.
There IS a you tube video of a Z supposedly with a turbo.
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Offline gfmoto

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2016, 08:22:40 AM »
Sure sounds like it's a turbo. But no specs on change in HP. 88km I think is 55mph. But it seems more responsive. I think some clutch work would make it just as responsive though.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2016, 09:17:32 AM »
A z6 is one thing but with an 800 I'm sure it will have to have some clutch work but how about these light-duty drive trains? I wouldn't think these diffs and gear cases let alone these baby driveline components could take all that extra. And where would you use or need it? Not trail riding in the mountains or woods.
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Offline WalkinTarget

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2016, 10:31:30 AM »
Most of the turbo installs I have seen require massive amounts of plumbing rerouting - the radiator is usually not up to the task of cooling the motor with the addition of the turbo, so they include an intercooler that sits upright in the bed between and behind the seats. You are talking about $2500 minimum to add one, and I just don't see it being justifiable under most circumstances. Maybe if you are doing dunes only and didn't want to sink 25k into a new ride, but its not a job for the backyard mechanic. 
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Offline chuddly

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2016, 12:56:50 PM »
Most of the turbo installs I have seen require massive amounts of plumbing rerouting - the radiator is usually not up to the task of cooling the motor with the addition of the turbo, so they include an intercooler that sits upright in the bed between and behind the seats. You are talking about $2500 minimum to add one, and I just don't see it being justifiable under most circumstances. Maybe if you are doing dunes only and didn't want to sink 25k into a new ride, but its not a job for the backyard mechanic.

Intercoolers dont do the same job as a radiator.  Intercoolers cool the air that has been run through the turbo and has nothing to do with the engine cooling system at all.
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Offline WalkinTarget

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2016, 01:42:54 PM »
chud, I meant that the turbo adds more heat to the engine compartment and makes a crowded engine bay even moreso. I didn't mean to imply that they aid in cooling the motor. I should have pointed out that the intercooler could take up the same space that a radiator relocate could benefit from in helping it to cool with direct airflow over it. That sound any better ? 
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Offline chuddly

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2016, 02:53:50 PM »
Got ya.  Just wanted to make sure that no one else got confused on it.
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Offline JohnnyBravo32

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2016, 04:56:54 PM »
I'm head mechanic and fabricator at Mccoy Motorsports in pikeville ky, I've fabricated many and many turbo systems for most makes and models, to sport bikes, cars. You name it I've turbocharged it. The cvt tech clutches on the z forces can handle 150+ hp, but no worries I'm not looking to step it up
That high. Your talking engine management and forged internals. I'm
Not interested in that. I'm talked 8 psi on stock internals which is very safe, on 93 octane. Your looking at Close to 50% hp gain. Estimated. So 95-100 hp. It would not take up any engine space, it would simply take place of the factory muffler. Very simple design and very easy to install. Of course if someone wants an intercooler etc etc there will be done modifications that will need done but still a very easy process. I'm looking at $1036 in parts to make this kit work. Labor. Included $1450 $1650 estimated. Sale price $1800 $2000 

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2016, 10:01:18 PM »
I'm sure some people would buy them.

I've wondered if the cooling fan on the side of the motor could be turned into a super charger with a little fabrication. Any thoughts?
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Offline Jogon30

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2016, 10:18:11 PM »
I'm head mechanic and fabricator at Mccoy Motorsports in pikeville ky, I've fabricated many and many turbo systems for most makes and models, to sport bikes, cars. You name it I've turbocharged it. The cvt tech clutches on the z forces can handle 150+ hp, but no worries I'm not looking to step it up
That high. Your talking engine management and forged internals. I'm
Not interested in that. I'm talked 8 psi on stock internals which is very safe, on 93 octane. Your looking at Close to 50% hp gain. Estimated. So 95-100 hp. It would not take up any engine space, it would simply take place of the factory muffler. Very simple design and very easy to install. Of course if someone wants an intercooler etc etc there will be done modifications that will need done but still a very easy process. I'm looking at $1036 in parts to make this kit work. Labor. Included $1450 $1650 estimated. Sale price $1800 $2000
I would be intersted for sure !

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Offline Nighthawk

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2016, 08:04:39 AM »
I'm head mechanic and fabricator at Mccoy Motorsports in pikeville ky, I've fabricated many and many turbo systems for most makes and models, to sport bikes, cars. You name it I've turbocharged it. The cvt tech clutches on the z forces can handle 150+ hp, but no worries I'm not looking to step it up
That high. Your talking engine management and forged internals. I'm
Not interested in that. I'm talked 8 psi on stock internals which is very safe, on 93 octane. Your looking at Close to 50% hp gain. Estimated. So 95-100 hp. It would not take up any engine space, it would simply take place of the factory muffler. Very simple design and very easy to install. Of course if someone wants an intercooler etc etc there will be done modifications that will need done but still a very easy process. I'm looking at $1036 in parts to make this kit work. Labor. Included $1450 $1650 estimated. Sale price $1800 $2000
I would be intersted for sure !

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Offline gfmoto

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2016, 08:45:56 AM »
So no need to add a fuel controller or different exhaust?
Or would those just make fine tuning it better?
2015 ZForce 800EX
32" light bar
2-4" spots
Custom Cv guards
DIY 1/2 windshield
UNI air filter
DIY rear window
BOSS ATV 28. 450W speakers
Alpena Rock Lights (tough pods)
2" RZR Bracket lift
Roof extensions
27" Maxxis Corranado Tires
Alpena RGB rock lights
SuperATV Rocksliders
1/2 Doors w/custom paint and graphics

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Z-Force 800 Turbo Kit Poll
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2016, 09:04:31 AM »
So no need to add a fuel controller or different exhaust?
Or would those just make fine tuning it better?

Apparently it replaces the exhaust so..no muffler? That takes it off the trails I guess.
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