[NMKawierider]

NMK, you're my hero, I want spin on's on my machines, so how do we do it?

Well, we don't just yet. We..or I am looking at the product in the first post which is for a Cam Am 800. The CFM 800 is a copy of that engine but with some small changes for copyright issues. I have purchased not only  CFM filters but also the CA filter as well as the CA filter cover to do my testing. The filter comparison is a few posts before this and the used CA 800 cover will be here in a few days. We will know shortly there after if we can use this adaptor and / or what will have to be done to do so.  Stay tuned...

[Revolutionary]

I will happily donate to your cause....money, whiskey, parts, whaddaya want? 

I found out that the air precleaner on both of my machines is a sock, like a pice of nylon netting or something. I gotta address this, I want to do it the same way you did; so expect questions from this neophyte....

[NMKawierider]

I will happily donate to your cause....money, whiskey, parts, whaddaya want? 

I found out that the air precleaner on both of my machines is a sock, like a pice of nylon netting or something. I gotta address this, I want to do it the same way you did; so expect questions from this neophyte....

Lol...might need the whisky before it's all over.. .. I just serviced the Unifilter (the one in the bed) today although it didn't really need it yet. What a pleasure not to have to go into the airbox every time. Someday I would like to find a solid, waterproof airbox large enough for a V6's air flow that will mount in the front of the cargo box and pop-up with a snorkel off it. Actually...I have found one that  may fit the bill.

[Wheels]

Ump air filters, check them out.

[Revolutionary]

I haven't even opened the airbox yet, I know it's on the passenger side, front of wheel well, right? Another mystery to be solved....I know there's a Twin Air Filter in it...dealer said they put one in both my machines.

[gwingo12]

I haven't even opened the airbox yet, I know it's on the passenger side, front of wheel well, right? Another mystery to be solved....I know there's a Twin Air Filter in it...dealer said they put one in both my machines.

Correct on the location. Passenger side in front of rear wheel.  Two bolts will remove the outer cover, pop about 6 metal latches from inner cover and whala!  Check to make sure your rubber gasket in there is not damaged.  First time I removed mine, gasket had a decent size gash out of it from where the cover pinched it either from the factory or more likely from my dealer.

[Revolutionary]

Good deal; thanks Gwingo, I'll be on that in the next couple of days (when I get some time). 

[WalkinTarget]

N00b question here, but what oil filter does the Z800 currently have on it ? I assume its a rounded off rectangular box configuration. I have never even dealt with anything other than a spin on, so I'm hoping this will eventually lead to a fix with a proper spin on by the time I buy my z800.

[NMKawierider]

N00b question here, but what oil filter does the Z800 currently have on it ? I assume its a rounded off rectangular box configuration. I have never even dealt with anything other than a spin on, so I'm hoping this will eventually lead to a fix with a proper spin on by the time I buy my z800.

Its a round cartridge type. You tale a cover off to get to it.

[NMKawierider]

Well the CA filter cover came in today......and aside from some external surface differences, it is an exact match to the CFM 800 cover. Everywhere I can get a caliper into shows exactly the same. I even installed it to confirm seal surface, bolts and pattern would match. They do so this conversion will bolt up and seal to the block, and there is room for the spin-on filter. The existing oil lines need to be adjusted to one side but that's it. Before you get all gun-ho and get one there is some additional info that needs to be reviewed. We know the CA filter is 1.7mm shorter then the CFM's so we can assume that the adaptor shaft is that much shorter. That may not be a real problem as the nipple the oil filter slides onto is 12mm if not a bit more. The real problem I see is using the CFM's filter rubber on the adaptor as shown. I placed both filters side by side and pulled the rubbers. The CA's filter body hole is 1mm larger then the CFM's. When I put the CFM's rubber in the CA's hole, it fits loose and when I install it on the machine it's still too loose to stop bypassing IMO. But..as you see, the part of the rubber seal that fits the nipple on the CFM's case is .76mm larger then the CFMs making it fit the nipple...well..looser then I would like to see but it does make contact all the way around.

So, in order for this to work the best as is, you will want to install the rubber off of a CA filter. Of course the best thing that could happen is I can talk Mr RPM into making one for the CFMoto that has a shaft 1.7mm longer and a 1mm smaller opening for the CFM rubber. The rest can stay the same. I will present this to them. Here is the final numbers:

[Revolutionary]

Sounds like you're getting close, NMK....I'll need to know where to send the whiskey....but you're going to have to prove your worth by letting me know EXACTLY the parts I need to do this with....

(yes I'm doing the happy dance...)

[gfmoto]

NMKawierider, I seriously believe that if this works, you could put a package together and an instructional manual and selling a spin on filter kit.  Pretty sure you would have a bunch of customers.

[NMKawierider]

Sounds like you're getting close, NMK....I'll need to know where to send the whiskey....but you're going to have to prove your worth by letting me know EXACTLY the parts I need to do this with....

(yes I'm doing the happy dance...)

I have sent an email to Greg Loflin, their owner, about this and send him all my data. If they will make two small changes, they can open the doors to thousands of CFMoto sales.  I'll keep you posted.

 

[Revolutionary]

I'm gonna get a shirt that says "NMK ROCKS!!!" Let us know when/if this happens, I am ALL aboard!

Thanks Bud, kindly.
Chris

[NMKawierider]

Well so far I have sent emails to everyone I can in that company with no response. Apparently either they are not interested.. or are doing some research before making contact with me. Either way my research shows this may work with the correct seal inside. That may take a little trial and error or maybe a little sleeve but I think I may give it a try in the near future.