It is likely not there for the engine, but the tranny. Engine sumps don't have that filter.

This tube:

Ahh.. so no worries and no drama, eh? Manual says do it every oil change but I would be glad to know it is far from critical, and that's why no videos ever mention it.

This is what it looks like.

[5. Remove the crankcase sump cover fasteners 2 and filtercover 3 .6. Remove the crankcase sump filter, wash it in solvent, dry it,and reinstall with the cover and fasteners. Tighten the fastenersto 7.3 ft-lb. (10 N•m).]

Sadly, after 2 years of owning a 2022 400, I am learning from the manual that all oil change videos for 400 are incomplete... the manual says this also has to be done:

5. Remove the crankcase sump cover fasteners 2 and filter
cover 3 .
6. Remove the crankcase sump filter, wash it in solvent, dry it,
and reinstall with the cover and fasteners. Tighten the fasteners
to 7.3 ft-lb. (10 N•m).

THAT is that weird looking thing around the oil drain plug....

What gives? What are we all missing?

Thanks but it seems different based on what you describe.

It seems the shifter is not freely moving the tranny to Low gear. High and all other positions are fine.

If I move it back to H and again to L, it will work just fine, but about 1/3 of the attempts to go to L result in the noise and no movement.

Shifter needing adjustment?

So to wrap this one up, I have decided to use Amsoil 5w40 oil for both my 2022 400 and 2023 1000. It has the AM2 additive and comes out twice as cheap as the CFMOTO-branded oil so I have decided to use it instead. Half the price and just as good a protection.

Thanks everyone!

Recently changed the engine air filter and saw a 12 inch tube behind it with and open end on the right.

What is it?

Ha ha, good one. Yes, i was thinking the same thing. Where and when was Gen1 LOL?

But same with Windows? First Windows out to public 30 years ago was Windows 3.11. Where was Windows 1 and 2? LOL

Here is the answer why it is best to stick to Gen 2 and naming 3 convention... Since everyone is using it online! Don't ask me why LOL.

Generation 2 ended in 2023 and from 2024 (I think) or 2025 a brand new 800 / 1000 are on the market. Totally new machines. They are called Gen3.

I know because i snatched the last of Gen2 1000s at a steep 25% discount! :-)

It might not have a wet clutch but it DOES require the engine oil to also lubricate the transmission.  The high shearing forces in a transmission will cause viscosity loss in conventional motor oil.  MA2-rated oils have additives to resist this... very important.

I did a lot of reading on the subject when choosing the oil for my CF500's first oil change.  (There is a thread in the CF500 section.)

The new 800 and 1000 cases aren't shared sump so the engine oil doesn't lube the transmission. However it still does in the smaller ones. Nothing wrong with keeping MA2 on everything anyway.

By *new* 800 and 1000 we mean outgoing Gen2 which ended in 2023.... Does gen3 800/1000 also use separate oils? Probably.

Thanks for the info on the 500 subforum thread, I'll check it out.

Thanks so much, it makes perfect sense. The only reason i bother people on the forum with this is that the owner's manual is very scarce in words - it simply says 5w40, that's it!! (interestingly, it doesn't even "suggest" or recommend the expensive CF moto oil kit). So that leaves much to wonder but it aligns with what you said: that in general any oil of right viscosity will do.

They don't mention AM2 or higher RPM applications, and given they provide 5 years of engine warranty, it makes me wonder, right? Anyhow, thanks so much bud. So for the 400, best to try AM2, for 1000 any car oil should do, but high rpm application "might be better". Thanks for all your contributions to the forum! My respect bro!

Thanks bud, so my follow up question is (and i have read your prior great insights on this) since there is no wet clutch, can I use regular CAR Synthetic oil on BOTH? I read about the AM2 spec on some oils that you talked about but it sounded like you only needed AM2 for wet clutches.

Not sure if it helps to answer but my 400 has ONE oil that feeds both the engine and transmission (no separate tranny oil to change), and 1000 has separate oil and tranny changes.

Regardless of the AM2 addition (say you think my bikes DO not need it), is it ok to use a good old regular car synthetic or do i need to get a high rpm motorcycle oil, etc? It would be my objective to use car oil if safe for the engine. That is why I am inquiring first. thanks!

Hey. Does cforce 1000 gen2 2023 have a wet clutch?

While we're at it, do you also know if cforce 400 2022 have a wet clutch?

Thanks

I found an oil filter cartridge that works ( according to Mainstreetcycle).
HiFlo Filtro HF 152 for 2020-21 CForce 600, 600 Tour

Local deal has a "filter" for $14.99.  They did not say if it was OEM or anyone else.  Sort of bothered by someone asking questions about, pissy IMO.

I also found Active Power Sports internet site.  High Flow Premium HF 152
It comes in a black and green box, yellow lettering. 

activepowersports.com    $5.62 ea,  + very reasonable shipping cost $5.87 ship/for 3, no tax.   

I have not found a local oil (5,10,15w 40 or 50) yet that is JASO MA2.  Maxima brand  is in videos, don't know of any other brand yet.  Maybe someone has specific brands out there?

YMMV

If you are looking for a high quality oil that meets JASO MA2 specs, IMHO , Rotella is one of the best bangs for the buck.  Look no further than your local Walmart for rock bottom prices on it.  Amazon and Advance Auto have it also.

Rotella T6, the one that says it's for diesel engines?

Also, would it work for both cforce 400 and 1000?