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Offline REDRIDER

Tires
« on: October 17, 2016, 06:23:56 PM »
I'm trying to decide what tires to run. Zforce 800ex.  I do a fair amount of hard pack riding Woods trails creeping around in the woods crawling hills and some rocks.  Not much mud. 
Wondering what others have run.  I don't know how these handle the heavier weight tires.  I was looking at kenda bear claw htr 28x9 and 28x11 but they are 27lbs and 34lbs. The maxxis zillas also look good they are light weight barely heavier than stock at 28x9 and 28x11 but i don't really need a mud tread.  I like really aggressive tire but more for him climb and crawling traction not mud.  Worth noting the bear claws are 8 ply.   Any other suggestions to look into?  Price under $150 a tire

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Online NMKawierider

Re: Tires
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2016, 06:50:50 PM »
I run the GBC Grim Reapers in a 27"- 9 &11. Also 8 ply...also much heavier then stock. Great traction on everything and everywhere and nice ride being a radial but...not a great tire for power slides as it are somewhat unpredictable while sliding sideways. When...or if I have this long enough to wear these out I though I would try the Dirt Commanders. There has been good reviews and Dirt Trax gave them a solid thumbs-up on a test SxS.
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Offline Coloradocrawler

Re: Tires
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2016, 08:23:32 PM »
I am running the Roctanes in a 27in. Approx 6-9 lbs more (6-7 lbs front/ 8-9 lbs rear) than the junk factory tires. They are 8 ply radials. They preform great in the woods and run out very smooth. I run 7lbs air in the front and 9lbs air in the rear without any problems.
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Offline flash

Re: Tires
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2016, 08:50:35 PM »
I run maxxis bighorns, 29x9 & 29x11 . Not sure how much heavier than stock they are but it seems to handle them well, they are radials and ride really well.
Also set the clutch to the c1 position...
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Offline jonvk

Re: Tires
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2016, 09:31:42 PM »
 >:( ended up with a flat after doing a bit of riding. Took the tire to get plugged. On cfmotos website it is advertised cst abuzz 6ply rated tire comes on these sxs.  However it is stated on the tire that tread is 2ply and sidewall is 2ply. Went to the dealer same on all the cfmoto sxs. 2ply tire is garbage. Pretty angry about it. Got a bot of footage if anyone wants to see it

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Offline gfmoto

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Offline gfmoto

2015 ZForce 800EX
32" light bar
2-4" spots
Custom Cv guards
DIY 1/2 windshield
UNI air filter
DIY rear window
BOSS ATV 28. 450W speakers
Alpena Rock Lights (tough pods)
2" RZR Bracket lift
Roof extensions
27" Maxxis Corranado Tires
Alpena RGB rock lights
SuperATV Rocksliders
1/2 Doors w/custom paint and graphics

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Offline WalkinTarget

Re: Tires
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2016, 05:03:12 AM »
Second the recommendation on the Dirt Commanders. I have three rides on mine - not much to go off of there - but every review I have read on them shows how good they perform. I do wish I would have gone with a larger tire than the 27's I got, but that was the max my stock 12" rims would allow. I will probably sell them next year and move up to 29" Dirt Commanders with a 14" rim with some offset to widen my stance from 50" to 52".
2014 Arctic Cat Wildcat Trail - 27" GBC Dirt Commanders, soft top, quarter windshield, AC front and rear steel bumpers, Bandit springs, EZ Ryde Midnight Edition exhaust, Plano 1719 storage box, Speedwerx throttle and secondary clutch spring, heated seats, Polaris seat slider.

Sold: 2006 King Quad 700 - 27" ITP 589 M/S tires, ITP rims

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Offline REDRIDER

Re: Tires
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2016, 06:57:58 AM »
I like the Dirt Commander seems to be right up my alley for my riding. I WISH they made a 28" though. I want bigger than a 27 but I'm not sure I want a 29". The 27" it a great weight just a couple pounds more than stock. The 29" gets back into the 34lb rear 27lb front I think. 28's would be perfect for these tires! Does anyone know if they run small or large? I can't find anything about that. If the 27's run a little large I may do that. I am putting The rzr 800 shock mount bracket 3" lift on I think it is supposed to net 2.25" lift

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Offline chuddly

Re: Tires
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2016, 07:27:34 AM »
I run the Sedona Buzz Saw tire.  Most of my riding sounds very similar to yours.  I will say that the straight line traction is AMAZING with these tires.  But they do tend to let the back end slide a bit more than others when cornering hard.  Its not bad just a slight difference.  Also on hard pack/ roads these tires are amazing
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Offline WalkinTarget

Re: Tires
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2016, 11:00:53 AM »
The Dirt Commanders run very close to true size. It really depends on what air pressure you run in them. I'm running 9lb on my front and 7 on my rear for now, but with 8 ply carcasses, they are a very still tire and I am SURE I could lower that to 4-5psi like I had been running in my ITP 589s. My only issue with the 27's is I cannot seem to find a 2" bracket lift for my Wildcat, so I have to gain lift by oversized tires instead of sticking with my 27s plus a 2" body lift. 

I know that the Bighorns run much smaller than advertised - so many guys run them these days, and the 27s measure out to about 25.75. Do your research on this, as some of them run well over an inch less than advertised. I mention the Bighorns simply because they are so well represented here in PA on our trail systems.

 
2014 Arctic Cat Wildcat Trail - 27" GBC Dirt Commanders, soft top, quarter windshield, AC front and rear steel bumpers, Bandit springs, EZ Ryde Midnight Edition exhaust, Plano 1719 storage box, Speedwerx throttle and secondary clutch spring, heated seats, Polaris seat slider.

Sold: 2006 King Quad 700 - 27" ITP 589 M/S tires, ITP rims

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Offline REDRIDER

Re: Tires
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2016, 11:56:30 AM »
The Dirt Commanders run very close to true size. It really depends on what air pressure you run in them. I'm running 9lb on my front and 7 on my rear for now, but with 8 ply carcasses, they are a very still tire and I am SURE I could lower that to 4-5psi like I had been running in my ITP 589s. My only issue with the 27's is I cannot seem to find a 2" bracket lift for my Wildcat, so I have to gain lift by oversized tires instead of sticking with my 27s plus a 2" body lift. 

I know that the Bighorns run much smaller than advertised - so many guys run them these days, and the 27s measure out to about 25.75. Do your research on this, as some of them run well over an inch less than advertised. I mention the Bighorns simply because they are so well represented here in PA on our trail systems.
Bracket lifts are so simple and easy you could probably take it to a metal shop and just ask them to make some. Or you could probably buy one for another machine like we Xforce guys have to and they will either fit or need slight modification. I would never put spring spacers in for lift. that's just like setting your preload as high as it will go and you lose the travel in the shock by however big a spacer you put in.

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Offline Rotalaris

Re: Tires
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2016, 07:59:34 PM »
I put 27" on mine. They work fine for all types of terrain. WANDA brand. Mud field dirt road.

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Offline Rotalaris

Re: Tires
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2016, 08:03:15 PM »
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Offline WalkinTarget

Re: Tires
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2016, 08:44:21 PM »
Bracket lifts are so simple and easy you could probably take it to a metal shop and just ask them to make some. Or you could probably buy one for another machine like we Xforce guys have to and they will either fit or need slight modification. I would never put spring spacers in for lift. that's just like setting your preload as high as it will go and you lose the travel in the shock by however big a spacer you put in.
They actually offered a 2" front bracket lift for the 2012 Prowler 1000 that can be adapted to fit the rear of the Wildcat, and I've found a Canadian company that offers a 2" front bracket for the front, but I've spent a few hours checking inventory on pretty much every online vendor that I am aware of to find that 2" Prowler lift and just cannot find one ! I will get more serious about it next Spring - going to replace my sagging springs over the holidays this year, and that alone should net me 2" that I've lost from the weak stock springs.   
2014 Arctic Cat Wildcat Trail - 27" GBC Dirt Commanders, soft top, quarter windshield, AC front and rear steel bumpers, Bandit springs, EZ Ryde Midnight Edition exhaust, Plano 1719 storage box, Speedwerx throttle and secondary clutch spring, heated seats, Polaris seat slider.

Sold: 2006 King Quad 700 - 27" ITP 589 M/S tires, ITP rims