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Sorry if this has been covered. Does the 2022 Uforce1000 have RPM limiter for break in process? I'm only at 130 miles and following break in guidance but did notice it won't go over about 5500rpm.

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Not that I know of, but I bought mine with 30 hrs on it and after its first dealer service.
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Those sold in the US shouldn't have other then the max 7750 (approx) and any limiters placed on reverse and 4wd/diff-loc.
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Quote from: trackhead on January 29, 2022, 06:44:12 PM
Sorry if this has been covered. Does the 2022 Uforce1000 have RPM limiter for break in process? I'm only at 130 miles and following break in guidance but did notice it won't go over about 5500rpm.

Did you put on bigger tires window etc

Mine a 2021 was struggling to get over 5500 rpm after I put large tires an cab on
I changed the clutching an now it will sing to 7000+
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Quote from: Lazydayz on January 30, 2022, 02:15:57 PM
Quote from: trackhead on January 29, 2022, 06:44:12 PM
Sorry if this has been covered. Does the 2022 Uforce1000 have RPM limiter for break in process? I'm only at 130 miles and following break in guidance but did notice it won't go over about 5500rpm.

Did you put on bigger tires window etc

Mine a 2021 was struggling to get over 5500 rpm after I put large tires an cab on
I changed the clutching an now it will sing to 7000+

All stock. Did read post on sun forum here about limiter on older machine? Will call dealer tomorrow.

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Went out in low gear today, pretty obvious rpm limiter at about 5,500 rpm.  At that level, throttle becomes dead.  Can clearly see it in this video I posted.  At 27mph can hear throttle cut out.  Same, but less obvious in high gear.  Hours are < 10, so assuming this is programmed into ECU to follow break-in guidelines per manual.


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Called dealer as well as tech at CFMoto, both say no built in limiter for break-in.  So I guess a 5 hour CFMOTO is already in the shop..........

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I just wonder if they set the limiters on the pure utility's..the U Forces lower then the sport models like the Zs on purpose. Personally I wouldn't want to go as fast in a work-built vehicle as I would is a sport-built vehicle. Too many differences is suspension, ground clearance, seating, restraints, handling...gearing....ect.     
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The dealer and CFMoto headquarters said no limiter.  Clearly it seems to have one, perhaps by error, or the folks don't know the machine.  I'm hoping to put some more hours on it to get it over 10 hours, as it says clearly in manual to not exceed 1/2 throttle for up to first 10 hours. 

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Quote from: trackhead on February 01, 2022, 04:00:10 PM
The dealer and CFMoto headquarters said no limiter.  Clearly it seems to have one, perhaps by error, or the folks don't know the machine.  I'm hoping to put some more hours on it to get it over 10 hours, as it says clearly in manual to not exceed 1/2 throttle for up to first 10 hours. 
They all have max RPM limiters otherwise they would just fly apart or go until the valves float. The 800Z is about 7750. What they don't have is a limiter on break-in.
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^^^Right, just wondered if they had a smarty pants limiter for break in............apparently not.

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Quote from: trackhead on February 01, 2022, 05:07:01 PM
^^^Right, just wondered if they had a smarty pants limiter for break in............apparently not.
I hear-tell the EU models have some kind of physical limiter on the throttle itself for break-in. And..theirs have a much lower max RPM limiter or speed limiter. In Fact some are buying US model ECUs to get around it. Wonder if maybe yours some how got an EU ECU. I also hear they are re-flashable too.
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Yeah, I've read that as well.  Seems logical.  The machine runs great.  I've spent plenty of time re-jetting carbs (prior to fuel injection) and rebuilding motos and have a pretty good grasp on fuel/air mixture and effects of jetting.  This machine runs great, it's not a fueling issue, doesn't seem like a belt issue, it's almost certainly an electronic issue.

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Wonder if it would peak at 5500 if you warmed it up and reved it in neutral...and if so, wonder of there would be any peddle left. That may tell is weather it was electrical or mechanical.
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Good point, might try that. Also going to get it past the ten hour mark in the next couple days.  It goes into the dealer next week.