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#1
So got a low mileage ZF800 trail, however I noticed once in a blue moon it would not turn on, but would normally start on a given day. Checked connection on battery and was a bit loose, so I tightened it. Still did it once in a while, where it wont turn over.

Now its not doing anything at all (still has power, lights, dash etc) I also double checked the kill switch, loose cables around the battery area. Also moved the P to N to see if maybe it was something with the position of P and N. So as of now it went from doing it once in a while, to fully dead.

I do hear the EFI pump turn on, but if I turn it back off and turn it back on right after, I wont hear the EFI pump. Not sure if that is normal or not? Usually when i turn on and off the machine and on again, I usually hear the EFI pump right after on other machines.

Where is a good place I should be looking?

Thanks!


#2
Quote from: NMKawierider on August 30, 2023, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: willc86 on August 30, 2023, 04:35:21 PM
Hey guys, so I am not sure what is going on, but I am trying to find maybe a stronger tie rod end for the end of the tie rod, not sure if someone has been having this issue as well, it is only happening with the passenger side, never the driver side. Tie rod keeps bending pretty easy and I keep having to replace it every so often. Is there another tie rod that fits in there? I am not sure if its like an m5 or so.

Im thinking of just buying different tie rods and seeing which one fits.

I tried the Demon Powersports tie rod but unfortunately they do not fit the trail width one.

Any thoughts or ideas?
I need some clarification. At first you said the tie rod "end" was bending and failing but then you say the rod itself was. Which is it? If you bend the tie rod, it must be replaced not straightened as it becomes weakened. The ends themselves, although poor quality, generally stand up to average usage unless they are either warn badly or under extra stresses from..well, a bent tie rod, a-arm, knuckle arm(where it connects), or a very bad alignment problem...or the wheel just keeps getting impacted on things like rocks, stumps and deep ruts. I suggest replacing the complete tie rod and end and the boot..which I believe is a package deal and take a very close look at the knuckle as they had a lot of problems with the 2018s-2020s with them bending.

Oops sorry I meant the tie rod end. The parts that screws into the rod. I'm looking with the naked eye and it looks like the tie rod itself and knuck looks pretty fine.

Hmm I'll probably change part by part to see if any helps. If anyone has any other ideas or knows another tie rod end from another brand, that I can screw in the rod let me know!
#3
Hey guys, so I am not sure what is going on, but I am trying to find maybe a stronger tie rod end for the end of the tie rod, not sure if someone has been having this issue as well, it is only happening with the passenger side, never the driver side. Tie rod keeps bending pretty easy and I keep having to replace it every so often. Is there another tie rod that fits in there? I am not sure if its like an m5 or so.

Im thinking of just buying different tie rods and seeing which one fits.

I tried the Demon Powersports tie rod but unfortunately they do not fit the trail width one.

Any thoughts or ideas?
#4
Quote from: NMKawierider on December 06, 2021, 04:51:48 PM
There has been lots of talk about the 600s and some 500HOs running in extremely high (as compared to others) RPMs. The thought is that in order to get the reported engine horse power numbers, they had to clutch it to run starting in the 3K range and up. People have addressed this with either a lighter spring in the primary or gone with heavier flyweights...some even both. This brings the operation back down to what's considered more normal. Then addressed the secondary clocking if necessary.

great thank you, so in other words its pretty normal for cforce600 and wont really harm anything then? as long as it does not harm anything, I am good with it
#5
So I have 2 cfmotos now! Yay! but the cforce600 touring definitely behaves different than my zforce800. I guess the best way I can explain it is almost feels like it does not shift and stays revving high when going 20-30mph power feels like its delivered mid to high range when I start getting on the throttle while the zforce800 is all low end.

I also have a polaris 570 and it runs at a much lower RPM I believe when going at those speeds, i mean it still revs but not like the cforce600. the best explenation is it feels like its in 1st or 2nd gear revving pretty up there at 20ish mph. I am just not entirely sure if the cforce600 characteristics are just that way? unless that is just how the cvt transmissions are? but I believe my zforce800 has cvt as well.

anyone on here with a cforce600 where it also rides and behaves that way? pretty much in the revs and "feels" like it is not shifting?
#6
General Discussion / Re: zforce 800 not going into low
November 18, 2021, 08:07:21 AM
I appreciate it! thanks for the help! Ill keep you guys posted when it warms up!
#7
General Discussion / Re: zforce 800 not going into low
November 12, 2021, 06:00:35 AM
Think I found what needs to be adjusted. This is from a cforce NOT a zforce. Would it be the same thing and is this what needs to be adjusted in order to hit low properly?


https://i.imgur.com/xmenBNW.jpg


#8
General Discussion / zforce 800 not going into low
November 11, 2021, 08:10:40 PM
Hey guys, so it seems linkage is out of spec or something. it will set on low, but I have to jam it pretty hard and hold it hard in low when I get moving and it will stay in place, sometime it pops out though and grinds, so it tells me the linkage needs to be adjusted. I just feel like it needs to go up more in order to set. all other selectors work well.

Question is, I have no idea how to do this, or how it looks. I was reading the forums, but its all honestly chinese to me. Can someone help me out by pointing me to the right direction? do I need to remove the seat? or take off all the panels etc.

I read somewhere that adjusting the linkage is like the tie rod?

appreciate the advice!
#9
What thanks buddy any you recommend that's not that  cheap metal just realized that looking at the metal
#10
That nut can move? I thought it was stationary with the rod or part of the rod. So just turn it and the broken tie rod end will become loose?
#11
here is another picture
#12
So essentially this happened while riding normal, and just snapped. is this just bad luck or the zforce tie rods are normally bad? Anyhow, I was thinking of drilling it out, but I dont know I can mess up the threads, or is it 100% for sure change the entire rod?
#13
ha ha! so btw I love the zforce!! does great! esp for the price!


not sure why the forums not showing my video...guess its still under construction but here is the hyper link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2oTzKq3k40

but before anything! i know i know i know....no helmet on her....i tried convincing her to put on a helmet, its like pulling teeth. Anyhow, she learned her lesson about the cold and realize a helmet would be beneficial.....and safer.
#14
Hello everyone. So i did a general search and just cant find the answers I am looking for sadly. I typed in "oil"
and other oil issues come up instead of what oil to use in a change.

I was wondering what you guys use for

front diff oil change
rear diff oil change
transmission oil change
engine oil change

can I use the same stuff as polaris 570 oils?
#15
General Discussion / dampening your suspension?
November 23, 2017, 12:28:49 PM
hey all im really stupid when it comes to atvs and cars ha ha. When they say "dampen your suspensions" what do they mean? how do you do that?

I was able to adjust my zforce trail to more "soft" which seems to be a bit better, but my suspensions still seem a bit stiff.