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#31
Thanks for the info!  I pulled both front and rear wheels.  There appear to be only two sets of numbers that might be of interest, the CFMoto Part Number and something else that looks to be wheel size related.

The Front Wheel Part number is 5BWV-070100-5100, and the other info shows 14x6.0ATET+46.5

The Rear Wheel Part Number is 5BWV-110100-5100, and the other info shows 14x7.0ATET+46.5

As I wrote, the 8" fronts and 9" rears are what came on the unit from the dealer. The tread patterns are the same and these are the sizes called out in the Service Manual.  So I don't think the dealer did any kind of a swap, and some of the CFMoto spec web pages agree with these size specs.

The 6.0ATET and 7.0ATET appear to match the rim widths when I measured them.  If that's the case then I assume from your post I could go up to 26x9xR14 front but no wider than 26x10xR14 rear which seems to conflict with what some CFMoto Spec Web pages are saying - they're indicating 26x11xR14s in the rear.  As far as I can tell from my research by part number, the same part numbers are used on all the Gen2 Trail 800's.

Not sure if the photos I took will post here though.
#32
I'm curious/confused about tire sizes on the 2023 Gen 2 Trail 800.  Mine has 26x8xR14/26x9xR14 front/rear that came when I bought it.  The maintenance manual also shows these are the "correct" sizes.

BUT if I check the CFMoto web pages for specifications, some pages show 26x9xR14/26x11xR14 front/rear while other pages and many dealer sites, which appear to copy some of the CFMoto web pages, call for the 26x8xR14/26x9xR14.

Even more confusing, specs on the 2024 version indicate they come with 26x8xR14/26x9xR14, and the Gen1 specs (2022) indicate they used 26x9xR14/26x11xR14s.

When looking for replacement tires it appears that 26x8xR14s are pretty rare with very few options. I assume the only real difference is tire widths.  So my questions:  Are the two different sets of specs basically interchangeable, i.e. can I replace the originals with the wider ones?  If so are there any other changes I'd have to make, like rims?  I assume I wouldn't have to make any gearing changes as both sets are 26", is that correct?  Anything else I should consider here?

Thanks
#33
Quote from: glassguy on July 21, 2024, 03:40:39 PM
Seems like Texas has some what of a goofy system.But like you said ''let them figure it out"".I went and got plates for mine a few years ago and so far no worries.

Yeah, every State I've lived in has its share of goofy laws, rules, and regulations usually involving things used for fun, recreation or relaxation.  LOL
#34
In most States street legal use of UTVs is controlled at the State level.  Usually those laws prohibit use on Interstates and State highways and where they're allowed they're usually speed restricted.  In some cases these rules can be overridden within a city's limits though.  One approach that some of us take is to license our UTVs to be street legal and that then really blurs the lines of where it can be legally operated.  However in Texas where I live, UTVs can't be licensed to be street legal, but because of reciprocity between States so if a UTV is licensed to be street legal in another State, it can be used on streets and roads in Texas.  The one "wrinkle" in this is that since I'm a Texas resident I have to register my vehicles in Texas within 30 days of bringing them into the State.  Since mine is here in Texas I'm required to re-register it, but since Texas doesn't register UTVs I can't.  (There is a loophole that if the UTV is registered out-of-state as a motorcycle, then the registration can be transferred to Texas which does do motorcycle registrations.)  I've only make mine street legal to make is easier to get from campgrounds to trails and I rarely if ever drive it on the streets or roads in Texas which is the only State that would bring up the 30 day thingy. I figure if I ever do get pulled over in Texas I'll let the cops try to figure it out.  There are a couple of on-line companies that can handle all the paperwork to do this for you. The one I used was Dirt Legal.
#35
ZForce 800 EX, 53 & Trail / Overhead Storage bag
July 11, 2024, 01:59:07 PM
Saw a post in the  ZForce 950/1000 Sport & EX discussion group about an overhead storage bag.  Checked the web site and discovered they have bags that also fit the Zforce 800. They have a bag for the Gen 1 (pre-2023) and Gen 2 (2023+).

I ordered the one that said it fit the 2023 Zforce 800 and it fit perfectly.

http://noexcusesutv.com/

BTW, contact Dave on their site if you have any questions or concerns.  He's very helpful and very quick to respond and ship new orders.
#36
I notice they also have some that fit the Zforce 800 Trail Gen2.  When I went looking for something like this for mine there was nothing available and I had to engineer a bracket to permit me to use one designed for a Polaris (I think).  But I like this one and will probably buy one to see how it stacks up against the one I currently have.  Thanks for the link!
#37
Nice, but if you think you spent a lot on your CFMoto and trailer setup for camping, just wait and see how much you'll sink into the RV setup when you start down that rabbit hole.  LOL

I trailer my Zforce 800 Trail behind a Class C, and sometimes flat tow a Jeep or a Chevy Spark.  On my 6th RV, second Jeep, and second UTV, not to mention all the trailers, motorcycles and scooters  I've gone thru.  Waiting on delivery of my new Class C now as I sold my previous RV in May. This lifestyle isn't cheap by any means - lots of fun, but certainly not inexpensive!
#38
Quote from: braian7023 on June 28, 2024, 03:17:27 AM
Hi,

I have a CF moto 650MT bought last year and today after i drove for 2km i parked it and i took it back after 10 minutes, but once i tried the display seems that doesn't turn on and the engine doesn't start, the indicators are the normal 3 that turn on every time, the one that once you turn on the bike will turn off, and the fuel pump works normally, i tried also to turn on the indicators and works perfectly.

Any idea what can be? the dealer said me that can be the battery, but i used a charge mantainer the entire winter and never had start problem (like the car that the starter motor try to turn but you hear that have not enough strenght)

Thanks

It could still be the battery.  I've never had much luck with charge maintainers on motorcycle batteries - they seem to just boil off the water and when that happens the plates can become damaged beyond repair.  I got to the point of not using  charge maintainers on my motorcycles and replacing the batteries about every other year.
#39
Quote from: NMKawierider on June 26, 2024, 08:52:08 AM
Quote from: kennybuck on June 25, 2024, 10:34:27 PM
Thank you! Where did you get this wiring diagram? I can't find one anywhere
Before 2018 you could find manuals and wiring diagrams for CFM more readily but after that they tightened-up and now it's almost impossible. This one is from the 2014-2017s so it won't be exactly the same as your 22.

The wiring diagram in the 2023 Gen2 manual is virtually useless too.  It is very low resolution and most of the labels are close to unreadable.  I've tried blowing them up, but given the low resolution of the originals all I end up with a larger blurry versions.  No doubt the dealers have access to better manuals and diagrams that the rest of us can't access.
#40
Found these on Amazon and they fit nicely on my 2023 Zforce Trail 800.  Much better range of adjustment than the CFMoto side mirrors.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08S9LVXYQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
#41
Quote from: smitty42 on April 14, 2024, 07:49:42 AM
Don't use the park on the transmission since it could hang-up, far as I'm concerned they can leave it off.

Agree with that - with or without the Parking Brake installed.  The manual even indicates that the transmission should not be placed in Park when trailing as it could damage the transmission.  GF forgot my warning about not putting it in Park unless it was on level ground once and we had to use the winch to take enough pressure off the transmission to get it out of Park.
#42
I wonder if they have a lot more range for adjustment then the CFMoto mirrors have.  With the CFMoto mirrors no matter how I mount them I can't seem to get them positioned to where I'd like for good viewing without them looking like they were hit by something and just dangling on the side.
#43
Quote from: SpudG2800 on April 10, 2024, 10:52:25 PM
Was this like a recall effort by cfmoto to fix the high chance of gear linkage snapping during an incline park? Rather was the cost to you zero dollars? Asking for myself and a friend.

It's not a Safety related recall, it's classified as a "Customer Satisfaction" issue being performed at no cost to the customer under their Warranty program.  All unsold units are being upgraded prior to sale; any sold unit is eligible for the upgrade at the customer's request. The time period for having all units upgraded runs thru the end of 2024, so if a customer doesn't request it by then they'll probably have to pay to have it done after that.
#44
For those still waiting for notice from CFMoto for the parking brake upgrade or running into the issue where their dealer isn't aware of the issue or can't proceed without CFMoto authorization, here's what I found out:

Dealers check the CFMoto database using the VIN number to see if the warranty issue has been authorized by CFMoto, and without that they can't get reimbursed for doing the upgrade.  CFMoto says all known affected VINs have been updated in their database, but they are also aware that there are many VINs which should have been updated which aren't.  If you call their Customer Service they don't have a way to update the database for you. What you have to do is have your dealer call their Warranty Dept to get things straightened out.  Unless the dealer is very familiar with CFMoto procedures and with this upgrade in particular, they may require that the UTV be brought in so they can verify things and take photos to communicate the issue with CFMoto Warranty though.  It appears most dealers however are now aware of this upgrade and many will go ahead and order the parts and get the upgrade started then deal with CFMoto Warranty.  So YMMV.
#45
Just talked with someone in Customer Service at CFMoto.  All the VINs (that they know about) have been entered into their database that the Dealers access.  But there are a number of VINs that were missed and have not been entered.  If your VIN is one of them you need to have your Dealer contact their Warranty Dept to have it entered.

Update:  Just got back from talking to the Service Manager at the local dealership.  He was familiar with the Parking Brake mod and knew from my records with them that my UTV was covered, so he's ordering the parts and will let me know when to bring it in for the upgrade.  Not sure if it helped but their customer records with me show a history of 20+ years of them servicing my various motorcycles and now my Zforce.