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#1
Z FORCE 1000 2018 .THANKS .
More issues today lol this thing has been nothing but broken down so far only had it 2 months ..snapped belt broke casing replaced both clutches now it won't engage high gear it tried adjusting goes every gear but high it pops out the min you apply revs and grinds.. ..any thoughts?? I'm thinking shift fork but surely couldn't just affect high gear?
#2
Can any one upload a service manual that doesn't expire as I keep missing the posts lol
#3
Hi guys anyone know the torque settings for primary and secondary clutches?? Now she's all rebuilt want to double check I'm right at 60 primary and 80 secondary
#4
Sorted!!! I put the old weights back k in instead of new ones just as a trail and it's back to normal!! Must have been tuned at some point..but thanks to your advise and the issues and mechanics of the cvt running through my head all night reading about weights springs 😀..it dawned on me my systems were a light primary as high rpm for low speed but lots of lower grunt..I sripped cleaned I specter again and thought maybe weight ..when I put my old weights against new weights they were twice the thickness! Replaced with old weights test run and bang . Back to normal steady easy acceleration and easy 50mph at only 6000 revs so knew it was the issues ...thanks again hope for a trouble free weekend adventure now with the Kings coronation we have 4 days off 😀
#5
Fieat owner must have tuned the clutch as non standard so when I'm playing as standard rules changed....all I have done is put the old weights into the new sliders instead of new weights and the machine is back to normal!!!!
#6
Hi guys thanks for all the help today I worked out my issue..I ordered the new weights as standard ...I put the old weights in new sliders rebuild clutch cleaned again another new belt ..and bang.....the machine now happily  runs along at 60 mph again ...just in time for weekends fun trip ..frustrating but iv leaned a lot about how the cvt system works  now ...thanks again ill post some pics of our adventure at weekend....thanks a million guys your info got me there in the end
#7
Mmmm well I put them in the same way I'm sure of it do you have a pic of the correct way?
#8
I just though .May havebeen stupid as I did the mark the clutches primary or secondary when removed and replaced ?? I did mark the primary back when I replaced the weights though....I can't help think iv done something silly
#9
I havea manual that's how I did the works but did exactly what is said is there a way to manually check the movement of primary clutch? Sorry to be a pain this my 1st machine and had probs since day 1 only a week ago..
#10
What am I checking for ??weights position sliders function ect?? I'm 100 % new to cover and any sort of atv utv machine this my first few hours of manual work on one
#11
Juat checked as you said the belt seems to stay at the bottom of primary??? So frustrating but learning
#12
Just a thought? Would it make a difference if the belt was wrong way around ect? I fitted it with arrow facing forwards ..now realised the drive goes backwards?? Iv swapped belt around and still the same ..have a worn it out by running wrong way around .  I'm litterally at a dead end now ..so pissed off was due for a Bank Holiday weekend away with it this weekend
#13
Hi thanks for infor I today have stripped both clutches full cleaned removed last pieces of old rope from secondary ..all looks clean and flat .cleaned both replaced the sliders and weights new belt ..after3 hours work rebuilt and its lotsbettrrclut h engagement but I'm still topping out at 34 mph aghhhhh please something me into the next direction
#14
2018 zforce 1000 ..New owner had snapped bet 3 days ago with 1700 on the clock serviced in book .replaced myself at side of the trial in 3 hours but now topping max speed at 32 mph 7500rpm..used to be 65mph at 7500rpm..what I done wrong 😑 any help appreciated.

Not good start to my 1st ever utv..but simple fix think I just missed a step ie to tention the next ect who knows I'm that green lol

Belt was £147 pre purchased as Spare
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#15
First of all hello to all you guys using these machines ! I'm litterally green as they come with a utv .love my cars classic and modern rode moto x for 20 years but needed something to keep me busy while not doing my latest sport of stage rally..(keeps the daughter happy she loves mud lol)

Anyway I got the zforce after reading up bought a 2018 with 1700 Miles and clean with some spares parts included .

First trip awesome day road I trail (I live in UK devon and the lanes and moors are amazing but as I need to use a few roads it's half road half track trips to do routes and tracks.
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all of a sudden on a road section accelerating hard to keep up with flow of 50mph traffic the belt snapped I heard it felt it instantly knew the belt had snapped!.

Roadside 3 hour repair later with little tools!(high 5 cf moto for easy of tool selection required and tool kit Pro idea plus my basic bag of kit and the spare parts previous owner supplied I managed to watch a view videos on you tube and easy remove the required casings plastics ect access the cvt I saw the remains of the belt in pieces with the rope inside wrapped around both clutches tightly wound up.
I removed as much as I could roadside  cutting twisting pulling unwinding but there was still remains in the secondary clutch.hammering with rain I popped on the belt as daughter was stressed now only 11 years been out 8 hours muddy wet and stranded..belt went on put vase on and crawled home thefinal 4 Mike's of trail to home  no issues .


Day 2.took it out for a clean at local power wash ..instantly realised on the roads as I need to speed up that it was only doing 30mph..day before 65 with easy ...rpm was hitting 7500 and doing 30 mph.
Running pulling like a horse but no speed.
Went home decided strip the cvt again and clutch...found the worn sliders !! All 6 meted with rough edges and 3 broken nylon guides on clutch..luckily I had some so replaced all the sliders and sleeve all fine..then i trued to separate the secondary clutch h to get the old last bits of rope out and still couldn't get it out ...so tried to remove the 2ndary clutch for closer inspection tion as you guys k ow not much room in there ..I can not seem to get it all the way off and joined nothing but few cuts and bruses so again got a few more bits of rope out tiny stands buy must be more in there .my thoughts are it's spread the secondary causing the slack belt and lack of drive at high speed ..I'm new to ctv barely understand how it works to be honest!

Any tips to remove secondary clutch ? And is this the issues with rpm or am I  chasing nothing..I rebuilt it again and one again won't exxed about 28 mph drives and pulls better but now won't reverse as his limiter before clutch engages....

Ps my local service centre is 80 miles away and I don't have a way to transport it there ...I have tools I'm no mechanic but have knowledge to service maintained and carry out basis repoars and rebuilds of 2 stroke engines ..
I'm considering buying a new secondary clutch to make it simple if it's the issue but if I can't fit it illbe at desk end stuck.

Sorry long post but figured read all the story at once .

Thanks for any info