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Offline Rbds22

Newbie From Michigan have a few questions and concerns
« on: April 17, 2023, 09:09:39 PM »
what's up ya'll. Picked up a 2022 Cforce 600 Touring with 40 miles on it. I hesitantly purchased it after riding it. I immediately noticed that shifting it into L, H N, P, R, was not smooth and it required some muscle kinda clunkly. Then I immediately noticed i had to give quite a bit of throttle to get the machine to move forward and it was jerky starting off. Not smooth at all. The best way to explain it is it feels like there is a parking brake on when you're hitting the throttle and it finally engages and starts going with a jerk. I also noticed the engine brake is super heavy. As soon as I let go of that throttle it a HEAVY brake. Way too much. I don't like any of it. But from what i'm seeing some of these things mentioned are somewhat common from what I'm hearing from others. Except I think my lagging clutch and throttle seem to be way more pronounced from what I'm hearing from people. I have to check again but I feel like it was around 3,000 rpm before it even start moving in L, H or R. Any help would be much appreciated. I wish there was a way to adjust the engine break and the clutch lag so it was smoother and engaged much sooner without a jerk.
2022 CF Moto 600 CForce Touring

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Online NMKawierider

Re: Newbie From Michigan have a few questions and concerns
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2023, 09:25:43 PM »
It is a common problem with the newer 5 and 600s as they try to get the increased HP numbers. Thankfully there are weights and springs for the primaries that fix most all of that..including the hard shift-back that causes the hard engine breaking. You will want a spring with a lower starting number and/or heavier flyweights is all it takes. As for the shifting, if it is the same with the engine running or not, some better oil or some more break-in time is needed. If it shifts easy not running but hard running, check for a failing oneway bearing while in the clutch...many have even come from the factory bone dry and seizing already.
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Offline Rbds22

Re: Newbie From Michigan have a few questions and concerns
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2023, 10:06:43 PM »
It is a common problem with the newer 5 and 600s as they try to get the increased HP numbers. Thankfully there are weights and springs for the primaries that fix most all of that..including the hard shift-back that causes the hard engine breaking. You will want a spring with a lower starting number and/or heavier flyweights is all it takes. As for the shifting, if it is the same with the engine running or not, some better oil or some more break-in time is needed. If it shifts easy not running but hard running, check for a failing oneway bearing while in the clutch...many have even come from the factory bone dry and seizing already.

Sweet, thanks for the info. Looks like i'll be getting some weights and spring. It's just so terribly bad. I'm thinking that the more I break it in some of this will smooth out a touch but maybe not. Is there a specific Spring and bearings I should get for what I am looking to achieve? I wasn't planning on spending any more money on this after I bought it so i'm hoping to remediate this relatively inexpensive.
2022 CF Moto 600 CForce Touring

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Online NMKawierider

Re: Newbie From Michigan have a few questions and concerns
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2023, 08:57:59 AM »
It is a common problem with the newer 5 and 600s as they try to get the increased HP numbers. Thankfully there are weights and springs for the primaries that fix most all of that..including the hard shift-back that causes the hard engine breaking. You will want a spring with a lower starting number and/or heavier flyweights is all it takes. As for the shifting, if it is the same with the engine running or not, some better oil or some more break-in time is needed. If it shifts easy not running but hard running, check for a failing oneway bearing while in the clutch...many have even come from the factory bone dry and seizing already.

Sweet, thanks for the info. Looks like i'll be getting some weights and spring. It's just so terribly bad. I'm thinking that the more I break it in some of this will smooth out a touch but maybe not. Is there a specific Spring and bearings I should get for what I am looking to achieve? I wasn't planning on spending any more money on this after I bought it so i'm hoping to remediate this relatively inexpensive.
Talk with the guys at Main Street Cycle. They have put together some kits that work pretty well. Also RNG Performance has some kits as well.

https://www.mainstreetcycle.com/contactus
https://rngperformance.net/#
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage |7- 9.7" GPS Systems | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front | Cage Chop Mod

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline Rbds22

Re: Newbie From Michigan have a few questions and concerns
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2023, 09:24:09 AM »
It is a common problem with the newer 5 and 600s as they try to get the increased HP numbers. Thankfully there are weights and springs for the primaries that fix most all of that..including the hard shift-back that causes the hard engine breaking. You will want a spring with a lower starting number and/or heavier flyweights is all it takes. As for the shifting, if it is the same with the engine running or not, some better oil or some more break-in time is needed. If it shifts easy not running but hard running, check for a failing oneway bearing while in the clutch...many have even come from the factory bone dry and seizing already.

Sweet, thanks for the info. Looks like i'll be getting some weights and spring. It's just so terribly bad. I'm thinking that the more I break it in some of this will smooth out a touch but maybe not. Is there a specific Spring and bearings I should get for what I am looking to achieve? I wasn't planning on spending any more money on this after I bought it so i'm hoping to remediate this relatively inexpensive.
Talk with the guys at Main Street Cycle. They have put together some kits that work pretty well. Also RNG Performance has some kits as well.

https://www.mainstreetcycle.com/contactus
https://rngperformance.net/#

Appreciate the info. Thanks!
2022 CF Moto 600 CForce Touring