I don't want to be misunderstood, as I said I would buy them again, I commented in another thread that they are a great fit and the framework is extremely strong and that I originally had unnecessary concerns about the strength of the smallish square tubing vs the substantial size of the round hip bar that the factory uses. I think the quality, design of the hidden framework and the graphics are the best out there, my only concern is the door panel, I didn't try to chip away a small piece of the core to see what it is and I would assume that it is some type of plastic laminate with the aluminum skins or either side, I will send an inquiry to Rodin to find out what he is using for the core, while a new aluminum skin could be cut and installed easily enough if there is a delamination issue I don't want to go through that process and lose the graphics along the way. I would like to hear from a member who has an older set of doors as to whether or not they were solid aluminum panels or a laminate, the aluminum skin on either side of the laminate is very thin maybe .025 inch or so, but the door skins do feel strong.