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Offline Rangerdb

Uforce 500 HO Brake life
« on: May 28, 2017, 04:42:22 PM »
My UForce 500 HO just hit 1600 kms. The brake pedal was going almost to the floor and very little stopping power. Today I took the wheels off and checked the brake pads. They are almost completely worn out, the back more than the front but all need replaced. How many kms/miles are most of you getting out of your brakes? These are the original pads that came on the bike.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Uforce 500 HO Brake life
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2017, 05:03:16 PM »
Unless you are always in the mud or riding the brakes, some are not getting much because the peddles are set too tight making the master cylinder piston not come all the way back to the stop. This holds some pressure on the calipers making the pads wear very fast. It also doesn't allow for the system to recharge with fresh fluid from the reservoir making the peddle spongy. Others.. me included, read about this issue with CFM and set the peddle correctly at the start, making the pads last a normal life. Although I did change mine to a better material at about 800 miles, they were still like new with 98% of the pad left. I saved them for spares...just in case. I also found much air in my system too so plan on a full bleeding.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2017, 08:00:14 PM by NMKawierider »
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Offline Rangerdb

Re: Uforce 500 HO Brake life
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2017, 07:59:08 PM »
Thank you. I will try adjusting the peddle. It is spongy. I bled the two front calipers today and it did make a noticable difference and gave me quite a bit more pedal. I'll check with the dealer tommorow on the pads and bleed the rear when I install new pads. Hopefully, they are reasonably priced but I'm not getting my hopes up. I got the CFMoto oil change kit from them, 3 litres of oil and the filter, a couple bucks shy of $100 bill, it was however synthetic oil.

You mentioned a better material pad, what brand and where can I get them.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Uforce 500 HO Brake life
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2017, 08:14:15 PM »
EBC makes them for many CFMs. Might for yours too. Go to their site and look-up the part numbers here. The backs will probably be the same where the fronts will be different each side: https://ebcbrakes.com/ .

Then go to Perfect Brakes and see if they have them. If so, buy then there. Their site is: https://perfectbrakes.com/ . Another option may be ebay. I found some there once.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2017, 08:16:15 PM by NMKawierider »
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Offline Rangerdb

Re: Uforce 500 HO Brake life
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2017, 08:05:54 PM »
I got brakes from the dealer yesterday. EBC for the rear and CFM on the front. They didn't have any EBC in stock for the front. They are pricey, I'll say that. $200 for all 4 wheels. For some unkown reason, one side on the front was $3.00 more than the other. Just curious if there is a reason they are not sold in sets like automobile brakes?

However, I installed them yesterday, bled all four wheels, greased the sliders, and adjusted the pedal. The rear were completely gone and the front about 50%. They work amazing now. In addition, the bike accelerates much faster and moves much more freely than it did since it was new. I think NMKawierider is right and then have been stuck partially on since new.

Now I am left wondering. I had to have the belt replaced at 800 km. The mechanic at the dealer said I must have been pulling or towing heavy loads. They only thing I carried was three 5 gallon buckets of crushed rock about 100 yards 10 times. Hardly what I would call heavy hauling. I don't race it and although I'm not "old lady slow", I drive pretty tame compared to others I ride with. If the brakes were partially on, I'm thinking this may have also been what caused the belt to go so quickly.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Uforce 500 HO Brake life
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2017, 08:15:47 PM »
I got brakes from the dealer yesterday. EBC for the rear and CFM on the front. They didn't have any EBC in stock for the front. They are pricey, I'll say that. $200 for all 4 wheels. For some unkown reason, one side on the front was $3.00 more than the other. Just curious if there is a reason they are not sold in sets like automobile brakes?

However, I installed them yesterday, bled all four wheels, greased the sliders, and adjusted the pedal. The rear were completely gone and the front about 50%. They work amazing now. In addition, the bike accelerates much faster and moves much more freely than it did since it was new. I think NMKawierider is right and then have been stuck partially on since new.

Now I am left wondering. I had to have the belt replaced at 800 km. The mechanic at the dealer said I must have been pulling or towing heavy loads. They only thing I carried was three 5 gallon buckets of crushed rock about 100 yards 10 times. Hardly what I would call heavy hauling. I don't race it and although I'm not "old lady slow", I drive pretty tame compared to others I ride with. If the brakes were partially on, I'm thinking this may have also been what caused the belt to go so quickly.
I think you are right on the brakes and the belt life.
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Offline chuddly

Re: Uforce 500 HO Brake life
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2017, 05:47:44 AM »
There are 2 factory belts that these came with.  One was a Bando brand belt and I cant remember the name of the other brand off the top of my head right now.  However the Bando belt seemed to be the longer lasting one/slightly better.  You may be a little short on your belt life but that could be a combination of the dealer suggesting that you replace it slightly early plus a belt that just didnt last quite as long.  I would not call your use "heavy or abusive" at all.  I went through the Dayco belt in a little over 100 miles of only 1 race and about 75 miles or so of kicking around my property.  Im on a Gates carbon belt right now and it seems to be holding up MUCH better.  I had a problem with my brake sliders hanging up a bit but I bought my machine used (and wrecked) so I cant say if that was that way from the factory or if it was the previous owner.  Either way a good cleaning and greasing of the sliders and its all set.  I agree that the way they sell the pads is nutty also.  You would think they would sell them in sets because thats how everyone is going to buy them but oh well.  It is what it is. 
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