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Offline Cosmosdan

Suspension bushings.
« on: October 26, 2016, 05:31:27 PM »
Mine are loose enough to need replacement. I don't want to use the oem ones because they were not good to start. I have decided to make some Delrin bushings. The z6 and z8 share the same ones but at different quantities. Depending on on how it goes, I may make extra.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Online NMKawierider

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2016, 06:30:07 PM »
Mine are loose enough to need replacement. I don't want to use the oem ones because they were not good to start. I have decided to make some Delrin bushings. The z6 and z8 share the same ones but at different quantities. Depending on on how it goes, I may make extra.
Cool. I am in need of some of the rear knuckle bushings on my Z8 myself and don't have the means to make my own so I am looking forward to some real bushings.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
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Offline Derfer22

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2016, 12:37:52 PM »
I'm interested; planning on pulling mine this winter to see what I could find that would work 
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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2016, 05:42:34 PM »
Right now I'm stuck on Material. I need 30mm Dia. Delrin at over 5' of it to make a set. I have some on hand, but it was too small. I will have to shop around and see if I can find some that won't take a month to get here.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Online NMKawierider

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2016, 06:38:02 PM »
Just food for thought. When I was talking with Energy Suspension about these they do and will sell stock material. It's high grade polyurethane but I have had a set of their bushings on my Brute's sway bar now for over 10 years and they are still like new. They gave me a special link to material sales so let me know if you want it. I have it in an email...somewhere...I hope.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2016, 08:24:27 PM »
Delrin is Self lubricating. I was thinking about doing stainless spacers also. Between the two, I would not need grease. I would still use it to keep water out of there. Polyurethane is just a pain to work with. Delrin cuts well and holds size too. Bad thing is it is expensive. I'm going to be close to  $75 for the stock.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Online NMKawierider

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2016, 08:30:00 PM »
Delrin is Self lubricating. I was thinking about doing stainless spacers also. Between the two, I would not need grease. I would still use it to keep water out of there. Polyurethane is just a pain to work with. Delrin cuts well and holds size too. Bad thing is it is expensive. I'm going to be close to  $75 for the stock.
Yeah it's the best. I have Delrin bushings in my lower front a-arms on the Brute. I grease them but like you say, it's not necessary...only to push any water out.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline Coloradocrawler

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2016, 10:24:29 PM »
I am interested as well........ please keep us updated.
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GPS,  chop coming soon.

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2016, 11:39:29 PM »
the bushing count is 16 short and 12 of the long ones.  I did check and the Z8 has the same size and count as the Z6. I did check the bores in the arms and found they were just drilled. this means that the hole size will vary a bit. I think I will make the OD to the largest of what I find. I will have to beat in the rest and ream the holes again after they are installed because the ID will compress a bit with that much of a press fit. I am also going to see if I can find the stainless pipe for the spacers. If you have ever drilled 300SS before, it sucks and will take way too long to make a set from bar stock. The OEM spacers are an odd dia. but as long as the bushings match, no big deal.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2016, 03:54:03 PM »
Looks like I'm buying some  rear wheel bearings too. I light of needing to buy a puller and the wood stove needing a rebuild, I'm going to have to hold off on this for a bit. I will for sure have there done before spring. I will post bearing specs and part numbers after I have them.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Online NMKawierider

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2016, 07:46:15 PM »
I was going to use these guy's sleeves. A little expensive each but if they last it will be worth it. And you can standardize. I was going to custom size from these 6" ones and if I needed longer for the front upper I was going to have this company cut them for me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Steel-Bushing-Sleeve-5-8-OD-x-3-8-ID-x-6-Long-1-Pc-CDS-DOM-/122184694111?hash=item1c72c6795f
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2016, 11:10:19 PM »
The bolts are 10mm. You will need to drill these out or change out to 3/8 bolts. That might get expensive.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Online NMKawierider

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2016, 12:25:40 AM »
True but I was looking at 3/8" is being 9.50mm. The bolts are slightly under 10mm at 9.59mm at the thread and of you look at the sleeve's ID tolerances being slightly over 3/8 as much as +.010", it just might go. If not, I'm not a fan of CFM's soft bolts and have a bolt supplier close by.
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2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2016, 06:30:17 AM »
The sleeves right now are .638 ish. And they are loose. 5/8 .625 will make it worse. I'm on the hunt for some stainless with an ID of .400+ and OD close to the original ones. Once I have that I will have my bushing ID.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Online NMKawierider

Re: Suspension bushings.
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2016, 09:06:08 AM »
Good luck :)

2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

My Videos On YouTube