[gfmoto]

Just glad the made a pretty big appearance at mud nationals.
Thanks Super ATV for hooking it up!'

[NMKawierider]

Yeah thanks to SATV what we did see looked great and that 10-second vid looked like if it had snorkels it would gave been a contender. Now let's finish that puppy and get it deep & dirty! 

[gfmoto]

Now let's finish that puppy and get it deep & dirty! 

Hell yeah. Three white tubes coming out of the bed with red 90* elbows like the RZR high lifter.
Would be a great finishing touch!
Agreed, NMKawierider, GET IT DIRTY!!! It can handle it.

[John riggin]

I was really disappointed with the CFMOTO USA videos on YouTube Boooooorinnnnngg. They might as well have stayed home for all the good it did to show new accessories and mods that aren't available yet.

I had good luck with my snorkel rig if I get a few min I will try and dig up the photos and send you  it was not to bad and I used a lot of the stock rubber fittings I just moved them I little     All 2 inch pic on intake  air box and in and out of clutch
Lets give them some credit for at least getting the ball rolling. We are leaps and bounds ahead of where we were this time last year. Also I gotta ask have you tried snorkeling one yourself Emerson perhaps yours or a customers?

I did mine but I'm not happy with the results, gonna have to redo it. It's functional but still kind of ugh. Its a major pain in the ass, especially that belt exhaust.

[ysoserious24x7]

Yeah but no video clips of any CFMoto in any event. Not even of the tricked-out one playing..in anything. Why go to the Mud Nationals and sit on the sideline. What kind of showing is that? Ok rant over...lol

Those guys either party'd too hard or was miserable being out in the elements but come on no footage of that tricked out zforce #jobfail!

[emersonsc]

Yeah but no video clips of any CFMoto in any event. Not even of the tricked-out one playing..in anything. Why go to the Mud Nationals and sit on the sideline. What kind of showing is that? Ok rant over...lol

Those guys either party'd too hard or was miserable being out in the elements but come on no footage of that tricked out zforce #jobfail!

I've got to agree. They had a VERY impressive trailer and set up. Obviously had multiples of at least a few units. But no action footage. No event participation with ANYTHING. NO videos of ANY unit out there with the big brand names. I know they blew a good deal of their small marketing budget and I feel they wasted it. They needed employees out there all day ON the machines in the mud showing what these units can do. They gave us an aggressive market share they are expecting to achieve over the next few years, but how when your marketing plan is strangled by a small budget, and then when it does go out, it doesn't nothing to actually advance the brand. A trailer and some fancy tents mean nothing. The buyers want to see ACTION. They want o have heard of the brand. Being known as the brand that "went to mud nationals but didn't actually do anything" isn't a good thing.

Looks like us owners are going to have to start a GO Fund Me and go down to the next one and do it ourselves.

Hell better yet, have owners enter a drawing to we an all expense paid trip to be part of the CFMoto showing next year and take your personal machine down to ride.

[chuddly]

I posted on their final video from there on YouTube how disappointed i was with their video series and pretty much how they didnt show anything but how the CFM sat there or it was stuck.  Heck if they will pay my fuel to get to an event I WILL race one there and run it all over the place and film it myself.  Also the CHEESY kiddie music they used in ALL the videos was just STUPID.  People who buy these want an action packed BAD A$$ video.  Not a video of them hiding from the rain under a tent and grilling shrimp.  It was honestly the absolute weakest attempt at a marketing push that i have ever seen.  The sad thing it it would have only cause a few $ in gas to get out there and actually do it RIGHT!.

[WalkinTarget]

Yea, its such a shame that they have a great product on their hands, but they seem to lack the proper input from their US sources on how to market the damn thing. They sell so well overseas that it feels like the US has been reduced to a third world market to them. The more I talk to riders, the more I hear the same refrain 'I've heard good things about CF Moto, but I haven't seen nor heard enough to make me drop my hard earned cash on one".

The one constant from the Mud Nats was the numerous comments regarding when we were going to see their purpose built rig get out into the deep stuff and show itself off. My guess is they were not contractually allowed to do that - it truly was a trailer queen show rig. I did see a short vid of it going into some slop, but it was not at all what the viewing crowd, and CF Moto fans especially, wanted and asked to see. Maybe next year ....

If you want to properly market your chainsaw - you cut down trees. If you want to properly market your fishing rod - you catch fish with it. If you want to show off a very capable, well optioned and low priced SxS - you RIDE IT at BIG EVENTS !! I just fail to grasp why CF Moto US has their hands tied on marketing in the US.
  

[chuddly]

I dont think its that their hands are THAT tied.  They may be been with the SuperATV rig and they may have a small budget for marketing here in the US.  But their marketing team just literally SUCKS at their jobs here in the US.  They have absolutely no idea what the SxS/off road community is like.  Im convinced they are marketing people only and only have the CFM job because of that.  Not because they know anything about off roading or SxS's.  If they were even half way intelligent they would be on forums like this reading comments like these and getting their butts out on the trails and at events and riding as many miles as they can and take pictures/video. Instead we get staged shots of a yuppie standing next to a photoshopped cut down tree with a chain saw in his hand that has never been started let alone used.  And they think we are all idiots and will think "thats a quality machine because the guy is wearing flannel".  They just flat out have the wrong people for the job or those people need to wake up and learn a thing or 2.  With just a normal truck and trailer they could be going to events and doing MUCH better than the crap they have been doing.

[NMKawierider]

To add to the incompetence I am told..and also see that the SATV rig wasn't even snorkeled...really? Why wasn't that the very first thing that was done? Go to "THE MUD" event unsnorkled?...really? It does explain why it wasn't used but still...as little as it takes to do why wasn't it.

[chuddly]

To add to the incompetence I am told..and also see that the SATV rig wasn't even snorkeled...really? Why wasn't that the very first thing that was done? Go to "THE MUD" event unsnorkled?...really? It does explain why it wasn't used but still...as little as it takes to do why wasn't it.

Which goes right along with what I was saying.  They didnt snorkle it because they dont ride and dont know that it NEEDS it.  They only did the things they did to it because it makes it LOOK like its a legit mud rig.  Now the things they did to it DO make it good for mud/water but they left out the things that are basic to anyone who rides.

[Pacific Eagle UTV]

In defense of what's been said, as far as I know this is a one off Z8 and a promise of things to come. Everybody had good things to say at the beginning of this thread and nothing has changed for me. If you only have one machine prepped, the last thing you want to do is take it into a mud hole and force stinking wet mud into places where it will stay. emersonsc noted back on page 1 that snorkels were missing, so they never had any intention of doing a demo in mud. CF Moto USA and Super ATV presented a beautiful beast and its my guess that they have other commitments and will be showcasing it to dealers and the best way to do that is with a shinny brand new unit. Having said that, they have missed an opportunity here, but I'm sure you will see its capabilities in the near future.   

[NMKawierider]

In defense of what's been said, as far as I know this is a one off Z8 and a promise of things to come. Everybody had good things to say at the beginning of this thread and nothing has changed for me. If you only have one machine prepped, the last thing you want to do is take it into a mud hole and force stinking wet mud into places where it will stay. emersonsc noted back on page 1 that snorkels were missing, so they never had any intention of doing a demo in mud. CF Moto USA and Super ATV presented a beautiful beast and its my guess that they have other commitments and will be showcasing it to dealers and the best way to do that is with a shinny brand new unit. Having said that, they have missed an opportunity here, but I'm sure you will see its capabilities in the near future.   

Yeah you are right..maybe next year they will make that showing.

[ACIDICJO]

Ain't no telling. They might be hitting other major events and step up their game, I wanna see 3 or 4 of those builds in multiple colors going ape sh*t on the trails.But that's just me, i go hard 
But yea SATV & CFmoto USA, snorkel that thing if you want to be taken serious.

[emersonsc]

I can tell you right now that rig wont be seen any where else anytime soon (or at least what I was told). Its already back at SATV. I had requested borrowing it to show it at the St. Helen Michigan ORV Jamboree in August and got a quick NO because it had to stay there for more R&D. I set up a booth at the jamboree to show off the CFMoto (and now Arctic Cat) units I sell and that SATV rig would have been GREAT to show off there because one thing riders and potential riders dont give two s***s about is a stock unit. When its a bran they've never heard of they want to know WHAT it can do, and whats available for it.

As a dealer I'm pretty let down. This would have been a very important boost to the brand, and they missed by a long shot.

I agree, the guys in the videos looked like they were spending more time hanging out and partying than anything else. Dont get me wrong, at the end of the day its me and a case of beer too, but during the day im plowing through the hang over and demonstrating my brand. I saw ZERO demonstration footage. Instead, we got a tour of the event. But why? CFMoto was there to promote the d*** event, let the events promoters (they pay a company to do that) deal with "tours" of the event. PROMOTE YOUR PRODUCT!!!! ITS WHY YOU ARE THERE.

I've backed off the forums lately over pure frustration with the brand. My unit is STILL down, and these guys are grasping at straws as far as whats causing the issue. It's whats holding up final R&D for the STM Clutches. If it cant be figured out soon, i'm going to literally scrap it and get a Arctic Cat Wildcat.