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Offline NMKawierider

CVT Exhaust Temperature Gauge
« on: July 27, 2016, 07:53:00 PM »
Has anyone either thought of or installed some kind of temp gauge on the discharge or exhaust of their CVT case to see how hot it was running? I've been working on an intake filter system that's easy to deal.. with but thought it might be good to know if it's getting too hot....and what is considered "too hot" anyway?. There are a number of gauge and sensor types out there and some for pretty cheap...and some...not so cheap. What are your thoughts?
« Last Edit: July 27, 2016, 07:55:19 PM by NMKawierider »
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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: CVT Exhaust Temperature Gauge
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2016, 08:13:53 PM »
I've never really had problems with over heated belts. As for the filter, I'm 100% with you. Want to start a tread on this? I have been working on this too and would love to get people to rally around this issue. Dust has been my #1 problem.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: CVT Exhaust Temperature Gauge
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2016, 08:24:10 PM »
I've never really had problems with over heated belts. As for the filter, I'm 100% with you. Want to start a tread on this? I have been working on this too and would love to get people to rally around this issue. Dust has been my #1 problem.
Yeah. Let's start a thread on filtering these CVTs. Looks like it's needed by the amount of damage the dirt and stuff is doing.. and I see some other manufacturers do filter their intake air already.

Here's one for a Polaris:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-Polaris-Ranger-Crew-800-Clutch-CVT-Intake-Air-Cleaner-Box-With-Filter-/131809889678?hash=item1eb07b4d8e:g:EdYAAOSw8vZXMkDG&vxp=mtr

Here's a simple Uni for a Rhino that might work for us:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNI-Two-Stage-Foam-CVT-Air-Filter-Yamaha-Rhino-660-2005-2007-NU-3259ST-/152147921917?hash=item236cb90bfd:g:mWIAAOSwAYtWLvde&vxp=mtr

Even some for the Kawasaki Mule:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-400-520-620-Mule-CVT-Belt-Air-Filter-11013-1263-/151555007504?hash=item234961e410:g:Sg4AAOSwBnVW9WSz&vxp=mtr

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« Last Edit: July 27, 2016, 08:32:53 PM by NMKawierider »
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Offline chuddly

Re: CVT Exhaust Temperature Gauge
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2016, 05:24:47 AM »
I have the sensor that I need to put in my CVT to be able to monitor the temperature which is just a inline water temperature sensor. I just don't have the gate yet I need to pick one up. I will admit that the inline water temperature sensor won't represent the temperature of the CVT as quickly as some of their sensors will but your CVT temperature shouldn't change that quickly to where it matters. It's on my list of projects to do but I just need to get time to do it.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: CVT Exhaust Temperature Gauge
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2016, 07:44:34 AM »
I have the sensor that I need to put in my CVT to be able to monitor the temperature which is just a inline water temperature sensor. I just don't have the gate yet I need to pick one up. I will admit that the inline water temperature sensor won't represent the temperature of the CVT as quickly as some of their sensors will but your CVT temperature shouldn't change that quickly to where it matters. It's on my list of projects to do but I just need to get time to do it.
Any idea what temp range they normally run?
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Offline chuddly

Re: CVT Exhaust Temperature Gauge
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2016, 10:03:31 AM »
The temp they run is based of course off of how hard you are running it unlike an engine temp.  But the general rule of thumb is you want to keep the CVT at or below 200.  If you run above that for very long then you run the risk of either extremely quick belt wear or complete belt failure.  This all also depends on your belt and what its made of and so on.  Like I said this is just a general rule of thumb.  With the sensor i have and the gauge I am looking at I know from experience that you have about a 2-3 second delay in what the temp is until it shows on the gauge.  Having it out in the open air I suspect it will be more like a 15-30 second delay but for me that is very acceptable. 

This is the gauge I will be picking up for my project when I get around to it.  I planned on mounting it in the exhaust port of the CVT.  I have seen other guys use this approach on other SxS's with great success so i see no reason it wouldnt work on the CF Moto
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EVU8YI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3DLWPWA98BWG0&coliid=I2ADLB2QPPHP11

This is the temp sensor I have and will be using also  - https://www.amazon.com/Equus-9835-Electric-Temperature-Sender/dp/B001DKQZBY/ref=pd_bxgy_263_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=AXVB0MJTB37T1SE1WN7W
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