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2014 cforce 800  1060 klm   just bougth this (new to me ) and when first trying to start the starter kicks in and makes a  errrrrrr sound, let off starter button and try again it starts up.  after riding for even a few mins if stop she starts up perfectly.    anyone experience this  or any ideas/info would be great.  always been a polaris guy but loving this cf moto but not familiar with it at all.     thanks in advance. 

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May be a starter motor or drive problem starting. Best check into it before it fails completely.
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Can you elaborate on the 'errrrrr' sound? Do you believe the starter is spinning/free-wheeling and gears spinning? Or is this the sound of a motor drawing current trying to turn but can't?

I ask because if the starter is spinning, but the engine is not, I would guess that the sprag clutch is a bit worn.

Here is an example of what a completely failed sprag clutch sounds like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZFYLO8eoAs


If that is the problem, this is likely the part you need: ($49 before shipping)

http://online.mortch.com/MICF800-6015-CFMoto-CF800cc-ATV-UTV-Overriding-Clutch-0180-091200-CF2V91W

Here is a good video on what it takes to remove and replace a sprag bearing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpXNzg3vkjc

The only thing I noticed was failure to put motor oil on the new sprags before assembly.
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srry guys trying to upload a video but keeps getting error msg.

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Quote from: maxim552 on March 28, 2018, 10:12:26 PM
srry guys trying to upload a video but keeps getting error msg.
Sorry, can't upload videos directly. Can upload to a hosting service like YouTube, then post a link in your message.
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Check the tightness of all the cables from battery to starter motor. A loose terminal will sometimes give those symptoms.


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Sounds like dry bushes/bearings in the starter motor.

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Is the cvt belt grabbing/rubbing?
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thinking on replacing the e starter just to see.
didn't think of the belt, but well remove the cover to ck it out, tks

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It's either the starter motor or the oneway sprag. My money's on the sprag.
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ugh! The same ugly sound when it shuts off.....that's a clue.

The noise is gone after it starts correct? Starter is not staying engaged?  Other than that god awful sound it runs normally & properly?

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Any update on your noise issue?
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    I just went through his on my 2018 Z500 ho.   It was The sprag  dead give away when it makes the noise starting & shutting off.    You can get them from Ebay cheap. Mine made
that noise 5 times befor it failed.
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