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Offline viejoperro

Re: Engine
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2016, 08:43:06 PM »
viejoperro is spot on. Get the manual for the cf500-5B. Location of info as follows

1-19 location of test plug under seat
1-23 how to count the blinks
11-25 grounding of the data link, k line(ecu pin 26)
Info on the testing unit you have coming is after this section and farther down is the code list.

I think one of the sensors is working, but not giving the right data. I had a car that had a bad MAF sensor go out. I put in a brand new one and still ran bad. Turned out that the new one was giving bad data and the O2 sensor was telling me I was super lean. If the O2 sensor gives a code, it might just be doing it's job and don't call it faulty right away. You will most likely get at least one for it.


Service and users manual

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4YlLEIJfz2eM0V0OXBBTHM0S2c/view?usp=sharing

Thank you Cosmosdan for sending him the manuals, I was looking for them, could not find it



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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Engine
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2016, 10:08:55 PM »
Maybe we can get a sticky on them. NMK? Wait, Never mind. Your too fast for me.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Engine
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2016, 11:17:36 PM »
Maybe we can get a sticky on them. NMK? Wait, Never mind. Your too fast for me.

lol...I see a manual we need and it's snagged...:)

2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage |7- 9.7" GPS Systems | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front | Cage Chop Mod

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Offline Wheels

Re: Engine
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2016, 11:55:16 PM »
I've got all the manuals, Let me know what ones you need.
The new z550ex is 900mb
Cloud I'm guessing
If it has Pistons or Tits you will encounter problems.

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Engine
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2016, 03:02:31 AM »
If we can get manuals for all of them that would be great. Cloud would be best. We can just sticky them so they are right up top of that cat. We should also sticky the first cf500 Carb. one I posted
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline gfmoto

Re: Engine
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2016, 04:19:00 AM »
Maybe they should have their own section.
2015 ZForce 800EX
32" light bar
2-4" spots
Custom Cv guards
DIY 1/2 windshield
UNI air filter
DIY rear window
BOSS ATV 28. 450W speakers
Alpena Rock Lights (tough pods)
2" RZR Bracket lift
Roof extensions
27" Maxxis Corranado Tires
Alpena RGB rock lights
SuperATV Rocksliders
1/2 Doors w/custom paint and graphics

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Offline viejoperro

Re: Engine
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2016, 06:06:12 AM »
Yes I suggested before to have a download section with all manual and service bulletins we own, I bet there are allmost every service and own manual for all CF, NMK is it to difficult to create that secction on the Forum?

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Engine
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2016, 10:13:31 AM »
Yes I suggested before to have a download section with all manual and service bulletins we own, I bet there are allmost every service and own manual for all CF, NMK is it to difficult to create that secction on the Forum?
It's not difficult to create a new section however I can't..being a mod has it's limitations. Jason however being the owner and admin can do anything...lol. We did kinda structure this in sections with the thought that all the info for each model would be in that section and things like service manuals would be "Stickied" in those sections. We did consolidate the How-Tos in one section though. Maybe it would be more convenient to have just one DownLoad section for everything downloadable. Jason- your thoughts?
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage |7- 9.7" GPS Systems | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front | Cage Chop Mod

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline Edofthenorth

Re: Engine
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2016, 01:00:16 PM »
Ok so I just got the scanner tool, an the Manual is all in Chinese.. Imagine that... So I'm guessing plug in tool an power up see if any code pop up?

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Offline Edofthenorth

Re: Engine
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2016, 02:11:34 PM »
Ok so I fired up scanner told
Me p0108 po107 on history recorder Map sensor I go out an unplug both map sensors an engine starts running a little bit smoother. Then I check auto diagnosis an says auto ecu is no echo

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Engine
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2016, 03:09:08 PM »
Do we know what that means?
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage |7- 9.7" GPS Systems | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front | Cage Chop Mod

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline viejoperro

Re: Engine
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2016, 03:39:37 PM »
Hello, Ok looking for error codes is different from autodiagnostic, the PDA works with different cables for different function. I don't know what that means?.I do now that for errors and engine parameters you use the plug that connects to the purple wire, pin 26, K line, ECU data line. For diagnostic you have to plug to pin 25 DLC, diagnotic link connector.  The good thing is your MAP is somehow malfunctioning. Can you post some pictures of the PDA and its reports. Can you ask by phone the dealer who borrow the PDA? I will check the manuals to see the faults you are getting.

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Offline Edofthenorth

Re: Engine
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2016, 03:53:15 PM »
Ok I didn't get the scan tool from a dealer. An the dealer is not much help either..
Here are some pics hope they go through

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Offline Edofthenorth

Re: Engine
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2016, 03:56:12 PM »
Sorry forgot to add the codes
I am plugging system in from underneath seat

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Offline viejoperro

Re: Engine
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2016, 04:23:04 PM »
Ok reading the manual lightly on page 11-14 is the description of the MAP, since the boths codes 107,108 are refering to electrical problem, there is the option, water got to the sensor and is malfuntioning, or wiring going to the MAP could be damage or not signaling the right amount of volts. you have to check if you recive 5v on the in line and check the ground is good, than check with engine running if there comes some signal from the signal line, so we can figure out if it is the sensor or signal inputs.
The other thing to do is to replace it, but this is a lotery, because it is not the idea of changing all the atv sensors til we fix it.
Those are my best recomendations base on what you are experience till now. I have a PDA manual, but is different from what you have, maybe old model.  Read manual electric and troubleshooting, I will do the same and let you now more testing I find.
Hope other members can give some advise?