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Offline nightstalkerusmc

spare tire mount
« on: July 12, 2017, 08:16:43 AM »
I know this subject has been brought up before, however it was quite a while ago.
I have heard that the CF rear mount has had issues with the welds breaking, I have seen other people have modified Polaris front bumpers to put them on the rear of the Moto.
Anyone see an issue with taking a Hub assembly with the rotor and mounting (rotor down ) onto the top a rear cargo box?  The rotor holes give an endless option of where to put the mounting bolts, then just mount the spare (probably inverted for spacing) onto the hub?
Just a thought... what are yours?
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: spare tire mount
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2017, 08:21:55 AM »
I don't see anything wrong with that...as long as the box can take the constant pounding. I once mounded my chainsaw on the lid of my box on my Brute but found the constant pounding it took almost ripped the lid off.
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Offline nightstalkerusmc

Re: spare tire mount
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2017, 09:17:55 AM »
Not sure about the Box being able to take the pounding...I got this one (idea from another thread)
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: spare tire mount
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2017, 10:33:02 AM »
Almost guarantee the bucking will yank the lid right off in a short time.
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Offline chuddly

Re: spare tire mount
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2017, 10:53:30 AM »
I agree.  Also the rotors are not really meant to hold that kind of weight and pounding.  You really just need a hub (anything 4x110 - Yamaha Rhino, Kawi Brute force, Honda rancher 420 and many others) and make it attache to a SOLID part of the SxS like the rear bumper of the roll cage cross bar.
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Offline nightstalkerusmc

Re: spare tire mount
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2017, 11:33:34 AM »
Wow I would not of thought that lying the tire on top of that box would cause a lot of stress, but I see your point.
I ordered a hub that comes with the rotor, It has the 4-110 bolt pattern, so maybe Ill see if I can as you suggest mount that to the rear bumper tube somehow.
Ill post whatever I end up doing.. waiting on parts to arrive now.
I saw someone had inverted and mounted a Polaris RZR front bumper onto the rear of his.  It looked really good, but I think it may impede getting at the latch to open my cargo box.
I see a Rhino front bumper on Craigslist for 75 bucks... Maybe Ill track that down. Cant hurt to have extra bars hanging around the  trailer.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: spare tire mount
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2017, 11:52:22 AM »
You know.. I have never needed a spare...now I have popped a bead and got a flat but a small 12V compressor and a tire repair kit with plugs was all that was necessary....really didn't even need the small scissors jack I carry.. and that all fits in the compartments and box easy.
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Offline nightstalkerusmc

Re: spare tire mount
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2017, 12:15:32 PM »
NMKawierider Knock on wood buddy.... I also carry those things but the rocks I have been going over recently are shale, and I only have the stock tires on it now.  So I just want to be prepared.  Also I ride a lot during the week when the trails are less crowded so with no help around I would rather have it and not need it.
I wanted a spare, dealer quoted me 385 for rim and tire.  Found a deal online from someone unwilling to separate 4 new rims plus 8 tires (2) sets for 950, I couldn't pass that up... #overprepared
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: spare tire mount
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2017, 01:57:48 PM »
NMKawierider Knock on wood buddy.... I also carry those things but the rocks I have been going over recently are shale, and I only have the stock tires on it now.  So I just want to be prepared.  Also I ride a lot during the week when the trails are less crowded so with no help around I would rather have it and not need it.
I wanted a spare, dealer quoted me 385 for rim and tire.  Found a deal online from someone unwilling to separate 4 new rims plus 8 tires (2) sets for 950, I couldn't pass that up... #overprepared
LOL..Yeah I see. Gota justify that pile of tires and wheels.. :)

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Offline Moto_Man63

Re: spare tire mount
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2017, 10:34:07 AM »
How did you pop the bead back into place on the trail with just the basics?   With my old cart I always carried a spare tire and bottle jack to replace tire ... but never needed to.   I am a bit concerned about the 2-ply tires.  I have plugs and a compressor but was thinking about getting a spare tire / rim to mount as well.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: spare tire mount
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2017, 10:47:02 AM »
How did you pop the bead back into place on the trail with just the basics?   With my old cart I always carried a spare tire and bottle jack to replace tire ... but never needed to.   I am a bit concerned about the 2-ply tires.  I have plugs and a compressor but was thinking about getting a spare tire / rim to mount as well.
I had my buddy run his wench line to the upper part of my roll cage and pull it enough to lift the tire off the ground. Then it was just a matter of clearing the bead and pulling it back onto it while applying air. The back side wasn't popped.

Can't run those 2-ply tires forever. I went with good 8-ply radial for piece of mind.
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Offline dragonmac

Re: spare tire mount
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2017, 03:14:25 PM »
nightstalker...3 hrs labour and some paint and a plate of aluminum / works great , no vibrations... (also bought four rims and tires for a steal :))
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Offline Andrew1au

Re: spare tire mount
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2017, 07:08:57 PM »
Mate, this really depends if your getting it for practicality or for looks. If you are getting it encase of a flat, I would recommend just getting a can of that instant inflate foam and a puncture repair kit. It takes 5 mins to fix a puncture from flat to driving again. It saves alot of space and weight on the buggy.

Just a thought anyway, this is what I do and it works for me. But if you want it for looks/style, then just buy the hub=rotor combo on ebay.
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Offline nightstalkerusmc

Re: spare tire mount
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2017, 10:11:03 AM »
Dragon, that looks great!!!
Andrew, I carry plug kit and sealer, just want to be ready for a more catastrophic failure.  I can't say that I am looking to add a tire and weight just for "looks" I don't like having to carry extra stuff that I don't need on a day to day basis.  That being said, I am riding a lot during "off peak" days when I wouldn't want to be stuck out in the middle of the woods.
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