New Springs for the 800 Trail

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So are they putting a complete shock set together or just the springs and also you say they have a piggybacks for the trail?

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Is there any particular part number we should use when we contact Bandit?  Or just say we want a set or Wildcat rear springs for our ZForce 800 trail?

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Quote from: Tatohead on September 13, 2018, 02:20:29 PM
Is there any particular part number we should use when we contact Bandit?  Or just say we want a set or Wildcat rear springs for our ZForce 800 trail?
Until the package gets together you will have to order just the rear set for the Wildcat Trail. There are two rates, the medium  and heavy(I believe). The mediums are the 200lbs and what most of is will be using. But if you carry heavy loads, might consider the Heavy which is 250lbs. Know that they will be stiff...and not as smooth as the 200lb Mediums. Just got back from another week long camp-out and still love'n the new Bandits. When Ted get the new springs in for the fronts he'll let me know...and then I'll make an announcement.
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Quote from: NMKawierider on September 16, 2018, 05:37:52 PM
Quote from: Tatohead on September 13, 2018, 02:20:29 PM
Is there any particular part number we should use when we contact Bandit?  Or just say we want a set or Wildcat rear springs for our ZForce 800 trail?
Until the package gets together you will have to order just the rear set for the Wildcat Trail. There are two rates, the medium  and heavy(I believe). The mediums are the 200lbs and what most of is will be using. But if you carry heavy loads, might consider the Heavy which is 250lbs. Know that they will be stiff...and not as smooth as the 200lb Mediums. Just got back from another week long camp-out and still love'n the new Bandits. When Ted get the new springs in for the fronts he'll let me know...and then I'll make an announcement.
where do I go to order the springs and is there a set price ?

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Quote from: Playtime on September 16, 2018, 05:40:12 PM
Quote from: NMKawierider on September 16, 2018, 05:37:52 PM
Quote from: Tatohead on September 13, 2018, 02:20:29 PM
Is there any particular part number we should use when we contact Bandit?  Or just say we want a set or Wildcat rear springs for our ZForce 800 trail?
Until the package gets together you will have to order just the rear set for the Wildcat Trail. There are two rates, the medium  and heavy(I believe). The mediums are the 200lbs and what most of is will be using. But if you carry heavy loads, might consider the Heavy which is 250lbs. Know that they will be stiff...and not as smooth as the 200lb Mediums. Just got back from another week long camp-out and still love'n the new Bandits. When Ted get the new springs in for the fronts he'll let me know...and then I'll make an announcement.
where do I go to order the springs and is there a set price ?
Go to the site I have below. Send an email stating you want just the the rear springs for the wildcat Trail and you want the 200lb rated. You can also just call their sales team.

https://www.banditutvsuspension.com/
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anybody try the Eibach 1000.188.0175 springs?  10 inch, 1.88 diameter 175 lb spring rate. I have the ELKA stage 1 ordered fir the back, but for $60 each I'm seriously thinking about a pair of the Eibachs for the front until I save up enough coin for Elkas for the front.

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E mail sent, ordering the rears for now

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Quote from: spider1 on September 20, 2018, 06:35:48 PM
E mail sent, ordering the rears for now
what are you going with stage 1 or 3 and is a stage 3 worth it I don't mind spending if I'm going to get a good return for it. So what you all think.

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ordered the rear springs from Bandit.

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Quote from: doug80638 on September 10, 2018, 01:31:42 PM

I am certainly pleased with such a relatively low cost solution when compared to buying new shocks. (I
pinch my pennies whenever possible). If you are handy enough to swap your springs then it's a no-brainer upgrade.  I hope Bandit makes a killing selling these things as they deserve it.

I'm now perplexed at what the engineers at CF-Moto were trying to achieve with their spring choice and wonder if the EX would benefit from a swap.

well i guess i will have one more project this winter. Glad the springs worked out

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Quote from: Diver on September 23, 2018, 11:59:11 AM
Quote from: doug80638 on September 10, 2018, 01:31:42 PM

I am certainly pleased with such a relatively low cost solution when compared to buying new shocks. (I
pinch my pennies whenever possible). If you are handy enough to swap your springs then it's a no-brainer upgrade.  I hope Bandit makes a killing selling these things as they deserve it.

I'm now perplexed at what the engineers at CF-Moto were trying to achieve with their spring choice and wonder if the EX would benefit from a swap.

well i guess i will have one more project this winter. Glad the springs worked out
so will you have to adjust the preload when you change them out? Where do you start ?

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Quote from: Playtime on September 23, 2018, 05:20:48 PM
Quote from: Diver on September 23, 2018, 11:59:11 AM
Quote from: doug80638 on September 10, 2018, 01:31:42 PM

I am certainly pleased with such a relatively low cost solution when compared to buying new shocks. (I
pinch my pennies whenever possible). If you are handy enough to swap your springs then it's a no-brainer upgrade.  I hope Bandit makes a killing selling these things as they deserve it.

I'm now perplexed at what the engineers at CF-Moto were trying to achieve with their spring choice and wonder if the EX would benefit from a swap.

well i guess i will have one more project this winter. Glad the springs worked out
so will you have to adjust the preload when you change them out? Where do you start ?
Just measure from the hitch to the ground with the old ones. Then set the new ones to be about 1/2- 3/4" higher. When they settle-in it should be about where the old ones were. If you want a little more..go for it :)
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installed my Bandit springs yesterday, super easy to do. Of course I was in such a hurry I forgot to measure the height at the hitch before I removed the old ones. I had 4 inches of thread on the shock with the old ones and set my new ones to 3.5 inches. Am I in the right ballpark for setting them up. Weekend of riding is coming up in 2 weeks and want it ready to try out

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Mine are set at 3 7/8" with 11" to the bottom of the hitch empty.
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Quote from: doug80638 on October 04, 2018, 06:49:06 AM

Mine are set at 3 7/8" with 11" to the bottom of the hitch empty.
I had 9" 1/4 before height before I changed out the springs new springs have it sitting around 11" 3/16 high. I have it just under 4". I have 21 clicks so I set that half way then 2 to fast so 14 out from slow and I have great movement stepping on back of hitch tried it out in the yard driven over some split wood and wow what a difference. Thanks to all the hard work some of you did to get this problem under control with minimum cost.