Hey all.

We currently have a 2020 Can Am Mav Trail 1000 that we purchased in November of 19 and its approaching 1500 miles on it. I honestly didn't think my spouse would love riding as much as me so I am pleased that we have been able to go pretty much every weekend since we bought it.

Well now we are contemplating getting a second machine so we can both drive and take our other dog with us as well. When we were shopping originally we test drove Rzr's, Wildcats, Zforce's and the Can Am. I actually really liked the Zforce's value proposition as well as not as many folks here have them and I like having stuff not everyone else does. However, my spouse was in love with the comfort and quietness of the Mav and we haven't regretted getting that one.

Now that we are shopping for what will probably be my machine, I would like to get a Zforce as I can get one brand new for the price of a used Wildcat, Rzr, and you can't even find used Mav's here yet. HOWEVER, the one thing that has really made me hesitant on the Zforce is the noise. I'm not exactly sure if its from the belt/trans or the Diff. Each Zforce I have driven has been the 800 and as soon as you start accelerating it starts winding up to a high pitched howl or whine. Thats what kind of made me think its the belt/cvt. BUT I have also seen a few of the Cforce around and even a Z1000 and I didn't notice that loud of a whine from them. Sure you could hear it a bit, but nowhere near as loud. I stumbled upon a few threads on here about the noises, but I would like to know if any of you have found the actual cause or a good way to combat it? I have seen some have found as easy as changing their diff fluid, some have done full on diff rebuilds, and some say its just the belt/cvt. I can't really see it being just the belt though, because CVTech is a pretty well known brand and I haven't seen any of their other products having that same amount of noise and whine.

Is there something that can be done to quiet down the howl or is it something you are just stuck with on these models? I don't expect a SxS to be quiet, but I'd rather hear the vtwin then this very annoying whining haha.

[2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS]

Hey all.

We currently have a 2020 Can Am Mav Trail 1000 that we purchased in November of 19 and its approaching 1500 miles on it. I honestly didn't think my spouse would love riding as much as me so I am pleased that we have been able to go pretty much every weekend since we bought it.

Well now we are contemplating getting a second machine so we can both drive and take our other dog with us as well. When we were shopping originally we test drove Rzr's, Wildcats, Zforce's and the Can Am. I actually really liked the Zforce's value proposition as well as not as many folks here have them and I like having stuff not everyone else does. However, my spouse was in love with the comfort and quietness of the Mav and we haven't regretted getting that one.

Now that we are shopping for what will probably be my machine, I would like to get a Zforce as I can get one brand new for the price of a used Wildcat, Rzr, and you can't even find used Mav's here yet. HOWEVER, the one thing that has really made me hesitant on the Zforce is the noise. I'm not exactly sure if its from the belt/trans or the Diff. Each Zforce I have driven has been the 800 and as soon as you start accelerating it starts winding up to a high pitched howl or whine. Thats what kind of made me think its the belt/cvt. BUT I have also seen a few of the Cforce around and even a Z1000 and I didn't notice that loud of a whine from them. Sure you could hear it a bit, but nowhere near as loud. I stumbled upon a few threads on here about the noises, but I would like to know if any of you have found the actual cause or a good way to combat it? I have seen some have found as easy as changing their diff fluid, some have done full on diff rebuilds, and some say its just the belt/cvt. I can't really see it being just the belt though, because CVTech is a pretty well known brand and I haven't seen any of their other products having that same amount of noise and whine.

Is there something that can be done to quiet down the howl or is it something you are just stuck with on these models? I don't expect a SxS to be quiet, but I'd rather hear the vtwin then this very annoying whining haha.

First, all CFMs have a noisy drive train. It stems all the way from loose and sloppy transmission to both the differential and gear case and some from parts between. All are a little different but there is nothing except better oil to change it's pitch somewhat. Second..now that you have had the "top-of-the-line" Can Am you will/would be very disappointed with anything Chinese.. although CFM is a notch better then some..still, unless you want your wife to always be faster, quieter and far more reliable then you, you better re-think what you want for yourself. I'm sure I'll catch some flack about that statement but it is how I see it. The Chinese build everything to a minimum standard ....which is borderline sub-standard for us. I've spend consider money side-stepping problems with mine and although it's been an "OK" machine, if I had it to do over again knowing what I know now, I would and gone with something else...even used if I had to. JMO.

Hey all.

We currently have a 2020 Can Am Mav Trail 1000 that we purchased in November of 19 and its approaching 1500 miles on it. I honestly didn't think my spouse would love riding as much as me so I am pleased that we have been able to go pretty much every weekend since we bought it.

Well now we are contemplating getting a second machine so we can both drive and take our other dog with us as well. When we were shopping originally we test drove Rzr's, Wildcats, Zforce's and the Can Am. I actually really liked the Zforce's value proposition as well as not as many folks here have them and I like having stuff not everyone else does. However, my spouse was in love with the comfort and quietness of the Mav and we haven't regretted getting that one.

Now that we are shopping for what will probably be my machine, I would like to get a Zforce as I can get one brand new for the price of a used Wildcat, Rzr, and you can't even find used Mav's here yet. HOWEVER, the one thing that has really made me hesitant on the Zforce is the noise. I'm not exactly sure if its from the belt/trans or the Diff. Each Zforce I have driven has been the 800 and as soon as you start accelerating it starts winding up to a high pitched howl or whine. Thats what kind of made me think its the belt/cvt. BUT I have also seen a few of the Cforce around and even a Z1000 and I didn't notice that loud of a whine from them. Sure you could hear it a bit, but nowhere near as loud. I stumbled upon a few threads on here about the noises, but I would like to know if any of you have found the actual cause or a good way to combat it? I have seen some have found as easy as changing their diff fluid, some have done full on diff rebuilds, and some say its just the belt/cvt. I can't really see it being just the belt though, because CVTech is a pretty well known brand and I haven't seen any of their other products having that same amount of noise and whine.

Is there something that can be done to quiet down the howl or is it something you are just stuck with on these models? I don't expect a SxS to be quiet, but I'd rather hear the vtwin then this very annoying whining haha.

First, all CFMs have a noisy drive train. It stems all the way from loose and sloppy transmission to both the differential and gear case and some from parts between. All are a little different but there is nothing except better oil to change it's pitch somewhat. Second..now that you have had the "top-of-the-line" Can Am you will/would be very disappointed with anything Chinese.. although CFM is a notch better then some..still, unless you want your wife to always be faster, quieter and far more reliable then you, you better re-think what you want for yourself. I'm sure I'll catch some flack about that statement but it is how I see it. The Chinese build everything to a minimum standard ....which is borderline sub-standard for us. I've spend consider money side-stepping problems with mine and although it's been an "OK" machine, if I had it to do over again knowing what I know now, I would and gone with something else...even used if I had to. JMO.

I'm not as bothered by all of that than my spouse thankfully, I am more motivated by price haha! I pushed for the moto originally. I could find a used wildcat for roughly the same or slightly less then the moto, but I worry they haven't been maintained. I over maintain my machines and am very meticulous when it comes to oil changes, filter changes, washing and greasing. Has changing the fluids in your machine to better quality changed the noise drastically? I'm fine with it being loud, I really just can't deal with the high pitched whine I have heard from them. It sounds like they have water as diff fluid or something.

[2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS]

Hey all.

We currently have a 2020 Can Am Mav Trail 1000 that we purchased in November of 19 and its approaching 1500 miles on it. I honestly didn't think my spouse would love riding as much as me so I am pleased that we have been able to go pretty much every weekend since we bought it.

Well now we are contemplating getting a second machine so we can both drive and take our other dog with us as well. When we were shopping originally we test drove Rzr's, Wildcats, Zforce's and the Can Am. I actually really liked the Zforce's value proposition as well as not as many folks here have them and I like having stuff not everyone else does. However, my spouse was in love with the comfort and quietness of the Mav and we haven't regretted getting that one.

Now that we are shopping for what will probably be my machine, I would like to get a Zforce as I can get one brand new for the price of a used Wildcat, Rzr, and you can't even find used Mav's here yet. HOWEVER, the one thing that has really made me hesitant on the Zforce is the noise. I'm not exactly sure if its from the belt/trans or the Diff. Each Zforce I have driven has been the 800 and as soon as you start accelerating it starts winding up to a high pitched howl or whine. Thats what kind of made me think its the belt/cvt. BUT I have also seen a few of the Cforce around and even a Z1000 and I didn't notice that loud of a whine from them. Sure you could hear it a bit, but nowhere near as loud. I stumbled upon a few threads on here about the noises, but I would like to know if any of you have found the actual cause or a good way to combat it? I have seen some have found as easy as changing their diff fluid, some have done full on diff rebuilds, and some say its just the belt/cvt. I can't really see it being just the belt though, because CVTech is a pretty well known brand and I haven't seen any of their other products having that same amount of noise and whine.

Is there something that can be done to quiet down the howl or is it something you are just stuck with on these models? I don't expect a SxS to be quiet, but I'd rather hear the vtwin then this very annoying whining haha.

First, all CFMs have a noisy drive train. It stems all the way from loose and sloppy transmission to both the differential and gear case and some from parts between. All are a little different but there is nothing except better oil to change it's pitch somewhat. Second..now that you have had the "top-of-the-line" Can Am you will/would be very disappointed with anything Chinese.. although CFM is a notch better then some..still, unless you want your wife to always be faster, quieter and far more reliable then you, you better re-think what you want for yourself. I'm sure I'll catch some flack about that statement but it is how I see it. The Chinese build everything to a minimum standard ....which is borderline sub-standard for us. I've spend consider money side-stepping problems with mine and although it's been an "OK" machine, if I had it to do over again knowing what I know now, I would and gone with something else...even used if I had to. JMO.

Has changing the fluids in your machine to better quality changed the noise drastically?

Not drasticlly..slightly I would say. I am having hearing problems which is aggravated by the constant whine of the drivetrain. In fact it leaves my right ear 98% def for a while after only about 15 miles of forrest road running. I'm considering ear protection now when riding to save what's left.