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Offline lvflyer

Hello - I am going to see a 2014 800 EX in EXCELLENT LOOKING condition (by 6 pictures) that has 1610 miles on the odometer (one picture). I have some questions before
I put the money down and I REALLY HONOR everyone's opinion on this forum

Is 1610 miles OK for a 2014? It LOOKS from the pictures it was babied

Are there any differences in a 2014 compared to a 2015/2016?

What should I look for when we drive it on the street?

What PRICE RANGE do you think I get it for?

Thank-you - lvflyer (Ron)

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Offline Cosmosdan

Used pricing gets pretty local. There can be a big difference between areas. 1k miles a year is not too bad. If you know your way around atv's, you can tell if they took care of it.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline lvflyer

Thank-you Cosmosdan. This JUST came up today and it is out of town BUT if it runs out good as good as the pictures do, it will not last long, I believe.

I was going to wait for a USED Polaris RZR 900 S, but I think I would be waiting for a LONG time for a babied one "apparently" like this CF Moto AND I do not
know what the price difference would be. I hope I am not making a mistake. I have researched the web the last two days (too long, but I am an engineer and
research is in my blood - LOL) and I know the 900 S RZR is better than this one BUT for my "easier" driving on desert trails and such, I HOPE this 800 EX will
satisfy me. I am also "a little" worried if this one does not perform well enough, how much investment I would lose selling it compared to what I would shell out extra
for the RZR and/or lose when I would sell the RZR. I am a "SPRY" (so I think) 61 and I take VERY good care of ALL my vehicles, including my TOYS.

I hope, and I know this is SUPER SHORT NOTICE, some more individuals can reply with their thoughts and suggestions

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Offline NMKawierider

Yeah pricing is going to very a lot depending on area. Just guessing between 7200 & 7600. Just use your common sense on condition and things to check. Focus on engine and drivetrain. Ask the guy what airfilter it has and if it's a foam aftermarket, ask when it was put in. Hopefully a long time ago. If it has the OEM type filter, check for oil usage.
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Offline lvflyer

NMKawierider  - Thank-you for your input. I will check and ask per your instructions

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Offline REDRIDER

as far as value goes, I just bought my Zforce new for 10k (it was a demo with 20 miles on it) they are usually around 12k here. The RZR 900s if you put the accessories on it that the zforce has stock are about 16-17k.. Now used I haven't found a zforce around here, the RZR I can find and most are asking 10-13k used with 1-3k miles on them. Can't really find a 900s for less than 10k here, so in a year or two they are asking for about 70% of original purchase price but usually they have put money in tires and radio speakers and suck for realistically more like half of what they have into them. If I were to try and sell mine next with 1k miles in a year or two I would try to get 7-8k. I don't know if I would get it but since theres nothing to compare it too I would expect I would get it because everything else is 3k+ more.  The suspension is a little better on the RZR from my research. The reliability I would say is a toss up, I hear tons of stories of how weak RZR parts are bearings driveline and such.

Lol I just put mine on here for 6500 cause trade values as r not good here it's loaded up and been well taken care of just way to big for what I do iv got almost 14000 in it but time to cut it loose  and take a beating on it

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Offline lvflyer

First, Thank-you all for you input. Now the update:

I purchased the unit today for $6,900 from a dealer who took in on trade and listed it YESTERDAY - that is why the rush because after I saw the pictures they sent
me that I had them take, I left Las Vegas at 4 AM to be there when they opened their doors at 8:30 because I have bought MANY cars, etc. in neighboring AZ & CA
and I also have JUST missed deals due to not being close enough and someone beating me because they were local and whatever it was it was a GOOD or GREAT deal.

I got back to Las Vegas with it tonight.

Since this is my wife and I's (we are 60 years young) FIRST foray into a UTV to do some desert trails, we did not want to shell, even though we could, between $10K & $20K
in case we don't go out and use it a lot. I figured if we do "get into this", I could always upgrade later.

I researched numerous hours on this UTV comparing it with the Polaris RZR and Can-AM Commander and I just did not see good USED prices and/or conditions and as I mentioned, FORGET the NEW PRICES, right now, anyway.

This brings me to the present, NOW I need to see what I got myself into. EVERYTHING seems fine BUT I some questions:

How SMOOTH and QUIET should the engine run?
I suppose I should take the belt cover off and what should I look for?
Before I check the belt, should I run it on my street and try to see how she "runs out"?

We went around the building AND the dealer had a decent length (strip) of dirt (ground) that we ran the unit on after we went around the HUGE parking lot BUT
we were not able to "run it out" to anywhere near FULL SPEED.

I will, no doubt, have more questions on many items because the unit has 1610 miles and as we all know, 2 people can put the SAME number of miles on
2 different units and the outcome will be different due to maintenance and how it was used/driven.

I will be looking at everyone here on this forum to help in my "baby steps" with this unit for many reasons including convincing my wife AND I that we did not make
a mistake OR waste our time "dabbling" in this "foray" - especially since our "senior bodies are not quite in "lock step" with our "young minds", or that's what we think - LOL

Incidentally, my wonderful wife of 40 years, has put up with MANY of my forays in the past. One being I just got my motorcycle license jus 3 years ago and it that time,
I have had 5 different motorcycles of which I have kept 2

Please let me know your thoughts on my FIRST, many more to come I suspect, questions above

Thank-you - lvflyer

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Offline Zforce800

Congratulations on your first sxs. My wife and I did almost the same thing you are doing. We bought ours new although we got a great deal on it. At 1600 miles a lot of the major issues should be worked out. If you are running in dusty environments a huge thing will be the air filter. Open the air box first and see what filter it in there. You'll want to use a UNI or twin air. I went with Uni in my unit. The intake is between the seat in the "bed" shell. I ran a snorkel on mine up into the cab but NMKAWIERIDER has a great solution to run a pre filter through the bed. Check the suspension, lift the front and check for play in the A-arms, forward and back, as well as the hub. Any play is either bushings or wear in the mounts or loose hardware. Overall they are great introduction machines just keep up on the maintenance. I had moments of frustration, but I just had to remember what the machine is, it's a Chinese built budget friendly sxs with lots of features for the money. I would give all the bushings a couple pumps of grease after every run and clean up. I used the brp bushing grease and use a 90° angle tip to reach them all. Have fun and enjoy the ride and congratulations again.
Currently a 2016 Can-Am Maverick XC dps. My first love but we've parted ways: 2016 cfmoto zforce 800ex eps black and teal with black wheels. Uni filter. Homemade intake snorkel. Homemade belly skid rails.

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Offline REDRIDER

I assume the dealer gave you a little bit of a warranty maybe a 30 day?  I would check the air filter and wipe your finger around the intake after the filter see if there is dirt in there or not, see if it already has an updated air filter as mentioned above. Other than that I would take the thing out and run it if you have any issues call the dealer back. As far as the engines being quiet they aren't really.  When I start mine it makes a little knock That is the clutch I think getting a little whiplash. I can head a slight knocky noise at idle which I believe is also the clutch. while under power and moving it is pretty quiet. You will notice knocky noise, when you are on and off the throttle especially at low speed, again, the clutch they are noisey on these things and when you let off the clutch engages for engine braking sometimes sounds like really big marbles making a rotational noise until it locks in.

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Offline NMKawierider

Congrats on the purchase. The guys before me have pretty much hit all the nails on the heads. Check that air filter first! It is the #1 killer of these engines. Then go over all the suspension bolts and check the bushings.

They make lots of little noises..mostly it's the wet clutch system. Might in your spare time check the valves though. They are like any motorcycle with adjustable tappets. And as these are a copy of the Rotax 800 engine that run a bit like them in that their idle isn't all that smooth. Sense it's a 14 you may want to change out the coolant as the factory coolant in those days tended to gel in time. And those thermo sensors (fan switches) were the first ones and many had problems. Consider a spare or a bypass to get you back. Its easy enough.

Good luck...and again, congrats.   
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Offline lvflyer

In my PRE-DRIVE inspection I found the dealer replaced the ROUND filter that LOOKS like a K&N but WHITE and has FOAM around it.

Is the filter supposed to be DRY or pre-loaded with something (wet) like a K&N?

Thanks - lvflyer

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Offline NMKawierider

In my PRE-DRIVE inspection I found the dealer replaced the ROUND filter that LOOKS like a K&N but WHITE and has FOAM around it.

Is the filter supposed to be DRY or pre-loaded with something (wet) like a K&N?

Thanks - lvflyer
The factory or old style CFM filter is pleated white fluffy paper with a thin foam prefilter over it. It also has a metal end cap. This is a dry type filter. This is also the filter that 8 out of 10 let trash into your engine. CFM now makes a teal foam filter replacement.. but given CFM's filter record, I won't be trusting it either. Either one of these two are the preferred protection along with the proper foam filter oil and cleaner.

https://www.amazon.com/Uni-Angled-Two-Stage-Filter-UP-6229AST/dp/B000UKI2HS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1462587268&sr=8-2&keywords=UP-6229AST

https://www.amazon.com/Twin-Air-156052FR-Resistant-Replacement/dp/B004S53IOI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462587877&sr=8-1&keywords=156052FR
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS-
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline lvflyer

Thank-you NMKawierider - I just ordered it :D