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Offline Coloradocrawler

Cage chop
« on: July 01, 2017, 05:03:19 PM »
I finally took the plunge and decided to chop my cage. I removed 5 1/4 inches. It took me about 5 hours. Quite a bit more involved than the 800's.  I removed the rear kicker bars in planning for some longer down tubes in the future. I like the stance much better.
2019 Zforce 1000
Flip windshield, synthetic winch rope, 2 inch lift, lights, 30 inch tires, back window, snorkels with pre-filter on air box, harnesses, Super ATV box, door inserts, B2 clutch setting, desert craft seat springs, 3L fuel cell, Bluetooth stereo, Garmin
GPS,  chop coming soon.

2014 z600 SOLD

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2017, 05:37:50 PM »
I like it. And I gota ask...I assume that's an air foil on top to help clear some of the dust in the rear...how's it work? My filters in the bed work OK but man they get caked with dust way too fast. I need to either move them or do something to push the dust away.
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS-
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline Coloradocrawler

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2017, 07:31:37 PM »
NWKawierider,
You are right, it is a spoiler. I got the idea from a company that makes them for RZR. I thought I would build one myself. ( Saving $500 ). It works well cutting down approximately 50% of the dust. Still playing with adjustments to see if it will do even better.
2019 Zforce 1000
Flip windshield, synthetic winch rope, 2 inch lift, lights, 30 inch tires, back window, snorkels with pre-filter on air box, harnesses, Super ATV box, door inserts, B2 clutch setting, desert craft seat springs, 3L fuel cell, Bluetooth stereo, Garmin
GPS,  chop coming soon.

2014 z600 SOLD

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2017, 07:37:47 PM »
That is cool.
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS-
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline Coloradocrawler

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2017, 07:48:59 PM »
Thanks
2019 Zforce 1000
Flip windshield, synthetic winch rope, 2 inch lift, lights, 30 inch tires, back window, snorkels with pre-filter on air box, harnesses, Super ATV box, door inserts, B2 clutch setting, desert craft seat springs, 3L fuel cell, Bluetooth stereo, Garmin
GPS,  chop coming soon.

2014 z600 SOLD

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2017, 08:20:16 PM »
From my experience, I get more dust in the back from road-running....and that means moving at least 20mph. That could be the answer by catching and forcing clean..er air into that zone pushing the dust away. As is even though I have a rear shield, I look back while running and the whole back end is in a cloud of dust...so bad..can't hardly see the storage box. 
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS-
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline vman

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2017, 09:42:09 PM »
That's probably something that we would all like to do, looks great, I like the aluminum diamond plate roof that one of the other fellows made, I wonder how that roof would look on your black machine with the chopped cage.

On another subject, I want to do the CVT filter that you installed in the cab how has it worked out for you, being an intake it shouldn't add heat to the cab, how about noise?
2012 Z6 625

Rodin doors and liners, SATV flip up windshield and Pacific Eagle soft rear, Dr. Pulley Sliders, C1 clutch, 1" wheel spacers, 2" lift, Kolpin Mirrors, custom muffler, front light bar, custom mudguards, modified rear cage, 27" Maxxis Mudder LT tires, custom seat covers, custom air intakes.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2017, 10:18:20 PM »
On mine being filtered but in the bed, it helps everything be consistent and not wear but man.. that filter gets plugged up way to fast on dusty roads and as soon as it gets about half way the CVT temp starts going up and fast. I am going to snorkel that puppy along with the engine air and put in-line filters on both.. get them above that dust cloud back there.
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS-
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline vman

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2017, 02:18:57 AM »
NMK, for some reason I don't want to do snorkels and I like what Colorado crawler did with the CVT filter in the cab, with doors and full windshields front and back I have to assume that your cab is getting a lot less dust than the cargo box and would be the best place for it other than a snorkel.

I have had my machine for 3 years this month and other than ride it, enjoy it and check fluid levels I have left everything else up to the dealer, what a mistake! A month or so back I went to my local auto mechanic to find out what was making noise and as I said in an earlier post the differential had broken loose from the mounting plate and the U-joints were bad, my CFmoto dealer 3 hours away didn't have the Ujoints in stock and informed me that it would be 6 to 8 weeks to get them from the states, so I went online to find them in the U.S. and had a friend who was coming down for a vacation in 2 weeks bring them with him, while looking up CFmoto parts I found this forum and I can't tell you how grateful I am for that. While waiting for the parts I lived on this forum acting like a sponge just soaking everything up, This site gave me the knowledge and incentive to do a few things I had considered and others that I was clueless about. So far I have completed the needed repairs, lifted it 2", had a shop fabricate a new muffler 3" longer and 1" larger in diameter...what a difference that made, and I actually found out what all the wheels and knobs on my shocks do and I made some initial adjustments based on the starting points that I found recommended on this forum. I also ordered a flip up windshield, thanks for the help with the dimensions, a rear soft window, heat/noise shield for the panels behind the seats and lastly doors from Rodin.

This weekend I pulled the panels off behind the seats to measure the diameter of the tube coming out of the air filter box so I could order the parts to install a pre-filter, from reading the posts on this forum I already knew exactly what parts I needed, I already have the 2 new Uni filters and the mounting plate for the filter in the bed, I only needed to know the diameter of the elbows tubing etc. so I thought, my frame is different than either of yours, my hose connection at the filter box is right under a frame that keeps me from running directly to the center of the cargo box as you did, I considered modifying the frame and decided instead to look at my filter box for the very first time ever to see if I could modify it in some way, what a f.......ing disaster, one of the clips was missing and so was the lid gasket, I didn't have a light with me but I could see it was extremely dusty inside so I ran my hand across the bottom of the box to see how dirty it really was and in shock pulled out what I thought were small pebbles, it turned out to be caked mud that I suppose due to vibration had popped loose from the box and you can imagine how the filter was, in addition,  the hose that runs from the throttle body to the tube on the clean side of the air filter was disconnected allowing dust to be sucked directly into the throttle plate, I don't think it was disconnected too long because you can see in the picture that the nipple it attaches to is clean and all around it everything else is covered in mud. The engine is running strong, has plenty of power and sounds the same as it has for 3 years, so I think I might have gotten away easy. I plan to change the oil, put in the Uni filter, finish the prefilter, replace the missing gasket and clamp, move the breather hose for the crankcase into the filter box instead of after it and do a compression test, is there something else you would suggest I do before putting it back on the road. I don't want to get into the CVT and clutches, but I sure don't want to take it back to the dealer again. He didn't have the gasket and clamp so I have a family member bringing those to me in another 10 days and I think I should order a belt for the CVT as well, I am guessing it is original, I was caught off guard by the price and apparently a there are a few different manufacturers that make them, is one better than another and what is the best source?
2012 Z6 625

Rodin doors and liners, SATV flip up windshield and Pacific Eagle soft rear, Dr. Pulley Sliders, C1 clutch, 1" wheel spacers, 2" lift, Kolpin Mirrors, custom muffler, front light bar, custom mudguards, modified rear cage, 27" Maxxis Mudder LT tires, custom seat covers, custom air intakes.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2017, 12:21:06 AM »
What a mess. Well, at least doing these things yourself you know for sure it's right. Just make sure NO dust can possibly get to that engine... ever. Pull that tube off the throttle body, inspect the butterfly, then open it and look for buildup on the tube after the TB. On the box cover after the new seal is in might use some filter grease on it to ensure assistive seal. Mine leaked and that stopped it.

I considered a CVT filter behind the seat but mine doesn't have enough room back there for anything over an inch thick. I think I have a plan though.... not cheap however.
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS-
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline Coloradocrawler

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2017, 01:46:28 PM »
I am using the uni filter behind the seat in the cab. Without a back window though, I seem to get a lot of dust that settles in the bottom of my cab. Even then it still is very easy to remove the filter and dust it off and reinstall it when riding several days in a row. I'm in the process now of putting a soft rear window in to help control the rest of the dust that gets into the cab. NMK is correct there is quite a difference between the 800s and the 600 on where the plumbing actually can be ran I have learned this from trial and error. This forum is a great place to get ideas, tips and tricks to help us make our rigs suitable for our needs.
2019 Zforce 1000
Flip windshield, synthetic winch rope, 2 inch lift, lights, 30 inch tires, back window, snorkels with pre-filter on air box, harnesses, Super ATV box, door inserts, B2 clutch setting, desert craft seat springs, 3L fuel cell, Bluetooth stereo, Garmin
GPS,  chop coming soon.

2014 z600 SOLD

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Offline vman

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2017, 08:10:29 AM »
You guys have come up with some really great ideas on this site. Are you getting any noise from the CVT filter in the cab.
2012 Z6 625

Rodin doors and liners, SATV flip up windshield and Pacific Eagle soft rear, Dr. Pulley Sliders, C1 clutch, 1" wheel spacers, 2" lift, Kolpin Mirrors, custom muffler, front light bar, custom mudguards, modified rear cage, 27" Maxxis Mudder LT tires, custom seat covers, custom air intakes.

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Offline Coloradocrawler

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2017, 03:50:42 AM »
I do get some noise in the cab when I am really on the throttle. NMK says the noise is less when using a foam type filter. I don't know, but I trust his knowledge. I am installing a back window this week which should delete most of the noise. Its not unbearable. There are a lot of noises our machines make......lol
2019 Zforce 1000
Flip windshield, synthetic winch rope, 2 inch lift, lights, 30 inch tires, back window, snorkels with pre-filter on air box, harnesses, Super ATV box, door inserts, B2 clutch setting, desert craft seat springs, 3L fuel cell, Bluetooth stereo, Garmin
GPS,  chop coming soon.

2014 z600 SOLD

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2017, 09:11:26 AM »
Might be my age but I am also finding I prefer leaving my silencer on all the time now. The quieter...the better...lol
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS-
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline vman

Re: Cage chop
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2017, 02:35:34 PM »
I hear you about the age. We use our buggy as a second car and rides through the mountains and country side on dirt roads and it would be nice to talk without screaming. I just installed a new muffler that I had made and it has made a huge improvement, next week I am installing a heat/sound suppressor and closing the 2 air vents on the back panel and expect another big improvement there. I have all the parts needed and tomorrow I am rerouting the CVT intake into the cab and I am hoping it doesn't negate too much of the sound improvements I have already gained, I guess the CVT filter being installed behind my butt can't be any worse than the snorkel from the factory being directly behind my head at ear level with only that thin back panel with the air vents in it currently is.

I cleaned the plastic intake manifold and the throttle body, surprisingly the butterfly was relatively clean on the engine side, the side facing outwards had a coat of oil/dust on it. While maybe not as good as snorkels getting cooler filtered air from the cab to the engine and CVT has got to be 1000 percent better than the factory setup, my CVT intake had no filter what so ever.
2012 Z6 625

Rodin doors and liners, SATV flip up windshield and Pacific Eagle soft rear, Dr. Pulley Sliders, C1 clutch, 1" wheel spacers, 2" lift, Kolpin Mirrors, custom muffler, front light bar, custom mudguards, modified rear cage, 27" Maxxis Mudder LT tires, custom seat covers, custom air intakes.