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Offline RLEMON5

UFORCE 800 OIL
« on: May 10, 2017, 02:51:36 PM »
What oil are you guys using?

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Offline Z8rider

Re: UFORCE 800 OIL
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2017, 08:25:39 AM »
Use anything that has a JASO certification or says "wet clutch compatible". Viscoscity really depends on your climate. Personally I prefer a synthetic blend, best value in my opinion. Just know that all blends or semi-synthetics are not created equal. The cheap ones generally have a very low synthetic content. Maxima and bel-ray are well known good-quality oils in the industry.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: UFORCE 800 OIL
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2017, 09:33:58 AM »
Use anything that has a JASO certification or says "wet clutch compatible". Viscoscity really depends on your climate. Personally I prefer a synthetic blend, best value in my opinion. Just know that all blends or semi-synthetics are not created equal. The cheap ones generally have a very low synthetic content. Maxima and bel-ray are well known good-quality oils in the industry.
Agreed. Good advise. Never go cheap with fluids and filters and use fluids made for the application that exceeds manufacturer's requirements where possible. I use Castrol Power RS 10/40 mostly because it is a trusted brand and is made for high RPM racing gas motorcycle engines with shared-sump applications...and very compatible with wet clutches. It, like any other high-grade oil, isn't cheap...but consider the cost of rebuilding an engine these days and it becomes justified.
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Offline RLEMON5

Re: UFORCE 800 OIL
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2017, 10:42:55 AM »
Thanks for the help.

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Offline Jimbo

Re: UFORCE 800 OIL
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2017, 05:43:40 PM »
My service guy said they spoke with CFMOTO about oil, and synthetics. They said CFMOTO told them syn was too slippery for the wet clutch, and they were told yamalube 10-40 was a good alternative, and approved by CFMOTO warranty wise. All the other 15w-40 SG (as recommended in manual) I found was either syn, or diesel motor oil which didn't maention anything about wet clutch compatibility. The owner of this shop, Birds of Prey Motorsports, http://www.birdsofpreymotorsports.com/ said he is on the CFMOTO advisory board for CFM.
Defected to Yamaha, a 2017 Wolverine

But had and enjoyed:

2016 U force 800 EPS | UNI filter | Overhead gun rack | GPS | Video Cam | 28" Bighorn 2.0 tires | 2" Lift | Monster Nomad blue tooth speaker | 2 piece windshield with vents | Rear curtain w/ window-Zippered side curtains | Bed seat w/storage | 1 1/2" Precision Motorwerks wheel spacers |
Rear cage, more lights, Elka suspension to come
Other stuff:
Max ll 6 wheel drive amphibious ATV
Kawasaki Bayou 400
Yamaha 200 Big wheel

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: UFORCE 800 OIL
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2017, 06:57:33 AM »
Shell Rotella T5 (15w40) and T6 (5w40 full syn)has the JASO rating.   
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Offline Z8rider

Re: UFORCE 800 OIL
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2017, 08:16:15 AM »
My service guy said they spoke with CFMOTO about oil, and synthetics. They said CFMOTO told them syn was too slippery for the wet clutch, and they were told yamalube 10-40 was a good alternative, and approved by CFMOTO warranty wise. All the other 15w-40 SG (as recommended in manual) I found was either syn, or diesel motor oil which didn't maention anything about wet clutch compatibility. The owner of this shop, Birds of Prey Motorsports, http://www.birdsofpreymotorsports.com/ said he is on the CFMOTO advisory board for CFM.

There isn't an "advisory board" for cfmoto and synthetic isn't too "slippery" for a wet clutch. Certain synthetics, yes.... (like automotive oils for example)

If you see the verbage "meets or exceeds JASO MA" for example and it does not have the little certification box, it isn't actually certified. The oil manufacturers is simply claiming it meets or exceeds those specs. Same with API certifications, unless it has the API "donut", it was never certified.

http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/pdf/4T_EV_LIST.pdf


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Offline Jimbo

Re: UFORCE 800 OIL
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2017, 12:50:43 AM »
There isn't an "advisory board" for cfmoto and synthetic isn't too "slippery" for a wet clutch. Certain synthetics, yes.... (like automotive oils for example)

If you see the verbage "meets or exceeds JASO MA" for example and it does not have the little certification box, it isn't actually certified. The oil manufacturers is simply claiming it meets or exceeds those specs. Same with API certifications, unless it has the API "donut", it was never certified.

http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/pdf/4T_EV_LIST.pdf

Well, yah there is, maybe my terminology was incorrect, Its the Advisory "Council", made up of some of the US dealers. Here they are.
Defected to Yamaha, a 2017 Wolverine

But had and enjoyed:

2016 U force 800 EPS | UNI filter | Overhead gun rack | GPS | Video Cam | 28" Bighorn 2.0 tires | 2" Lift | Monster Nomad blue tooth speaker | 2 piece windshield with vents | Rear curtain w/ window-Zippered side curtains | Bed seat w/storage | 1 1/2" Precision Motorwerks wheel spacers |
Rear cage, more lights, Elka suspension to come
Other stuff:
Max ll 6 wheel drive amphibious ATV
Kawasaki Bayou 400
Yamaha 200 Big wheel

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Offline Z8rider

Re: UFORCE 800 OIL
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2017, 09:12:43 AM »
I think they just call that a dealer meeting... that all dealers can go to :-)

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Offline Jimbo

Re: UFORCE 800 OIL
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2017, 03:12:56 PM »
I think they just call that a dealer meeting... that all dealers can go to :-)

What? You see exactly what they call it, The advisory council, with specific members, who's purpose is to advise CFM of dealer issues and concerns. I'm not trying to have a debate here, just passing along information heard and learned like everyone else. Right or wrong, no biggie, I'm just here to learn, and value everyone's knowledge and experience, peace and enjoy!

It was pretty convenient for this dealer to tell me this, it gave me the opportunity to be heard or maybe get some info back to them on some irritating fairly minor issues I had with a brand new purchase, such as tail gate latches missing nuts and bolts flopping loose, missing muffler support bolts and nuts, loose, sticking funky door latches, and power steering that shuts off when turning right and won't reset until the machine is restarted and the ECU is reset. Hopefully he will relay to them that these little detail issues and somewhat of a lack of attention to detail irritates customers.
Defected to Yamaha, a 2017 Wolverine

But had and enjoyed:

2016 U force 800 EPS | UNI filter | Overhead gun rack | GPS | Video Cam | 28" Bighorn 2.0 tires | 2" Lift | Monster Nomad blue tooth speaker | 2 piece windshield with vents | Rear curtain w/ window-Zippered side curtains | Bed seat w/storage | 1 1/2" Precision Motorwerks wheel spacers |
Rear cage, more lights, Elka suspension to come
Other stuff:
Max ll 6 wheel drive amphibious ATV
Kawasaki Bayou 400
Yamaha 200 Big wheel

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: UFORCE 800 OIL
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2017, 03:47:56 PM »
You know, as long as CFM continues to listen and actually correct issues brought up during these quarterly (or however often they are) dealer meetings, I'm happy. :)

 
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My Videos On YouTube

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Offline RLEMON5

Re: UFORCE 800 OIL
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2017, 08:59:20 PM »
I went to the local CFM dealer today(they are also a Yamaha and Honda dealer), they said they use Honda GN4 when they service the CFM's there, I bought it from them, hopefully it will be ok.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: UFORCE 800 OIL
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2017, 09:02:56 PM »
I went to the local CFM dealer today(they are also a Yamaha and Honda dealer), they said they use Honda GN4 when they service the CFM's there, I bought it from them, hopefully it will be ok.
I'm sure it will be..
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS-
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline REDRIDER

Re: UFORCE 800 OIL
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2017, 12:16:45 PM »
I use Rotella T6 in my motorcycles and zforce