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Offline badbuggy

overheating while plowing snow
« on: February 18, 2017, 09:32:15 AM »
I read one post about the overheating issue while plowing snow. I live in PA and we just had 7" of snow, while plowing my ride overheated and spewed anti-freeze everywhere.
This is not the first winter with this machine, I have had it for only 2 years and have plowed A LOT of snow in those years. The rad is not getting blocked while plowing so I don't know why it overheated this time. The dealer told me maybe a hose came off or the head is cracked (I called him as soon as it happened), and to pull the console apart to look for the possible leak. How do you get the console apart, seems like you have to disassemble the whole interior. Can anyone (besides dealer) help me figure this out?

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: overheating while plowing snow
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2017, 09:45:02 AM »
One of the things that also happens when plowing besides snow packing in is the reduced airflow to the radiator. In most cases the fan has to run much of the time because of that. This is one of the reasons the thermoswitch fails....and when it does... no fan...so not enough radiation of heat and that means over heating. You guys that do a lot of plowing really should have a bypass switch for your fans for this and just to have running to keep the temps down. So, check to see if your fan runs above 3-bars. If not, check the thermoswitch and replace if necessary. I have a how-to on the bypass switch for the Z. Should work for the Us as well.
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Offline badbuggy

Re: overheating while plowing snow
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2017, 10:59:52 AM »
Thanks for the suggestion, I was just caught off-guard as I have plowed snow for up to 3-4 hours straight in the 2 winters prior and have had no problem. My other SxS had not given me an issue in the 8 years I owned it (somebody stole it or I'd still have it) so it is a little frustrating to have issues with a machine that doesn't even have 300 miles on it!
I don't beat the thing but this is not the first issue I've had to deal with on this ride, how do I locate the thermoswitch and how would I test it? Is there any special tools that I need? thanks...

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: overheating while plowing snow
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2017, 11:14:39 AM »
Thanks for the suggestion, I was just caught off-guard as I have plowed snow for up to 3-4 hours straight in the 2 winters prior and have had no problem. My other SxS had not given me an issue in the 8 years I owned it (somebody stole it or I'd still have it) so it is a little frustrating to have issues with a machine that doesn't even have 300 miles on it!
I don't beat the thing but this is not the first issue I've had to deal with on this ride, how do I locate the thermoswitch and how would I test it? Is there any special tools that I need? thanks...
The switch is on the right side of the radiator. After refilling the radiator from the loss and checked that there is no leaks, start it and run it long enough to get three bard on the gage. The fan should come on by the 4th bar. If it doesn't, unplug the switch and make a wire jumper to go between the two connections on the harness side of the connection. Turn the key on and the fan should cone on as it is now bypassed. If it does, then order a new fan switch. It just unscrews from the radiator but you will loose some coolant so relieve the pressure first and be fast :)  If it still does not come on, the relay is probably bad or you have a blown fuse so check that next.

If the fan does come on by the 4th bar check that the coolant level is full. If so, check that there is good movement with that cap off. If it looks still, there may be a stuck thermostat or a pump issue.
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Offline badbuggy

Re: overheating while plowing snow
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2017, 11:58:04 AM »
Thanks a ton, gonna go check it out right now. let ya know how i make out. thanks again...

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Offline gfmoto

Re: overheating while plowing snow
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2017, 12:19:19 AM »
Putting my money on the thermo switch as well. This WILL cause it to spew antifreeze everywhere. I wish I didn't know that for certain, however, I have been there.  So happy to see some warm weather so I can finally install my override switch.  Just trying to figure out where I want to mount it. 
Anyone cut through the dash yet?  And did it spiderweb the paint or put hairline cracks in it?
Have a couple locations I'm thinking of but little hesitant on cutting a hole in the painted plastic. 
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: overheating while plowing snow
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2017, 01:30:21 AM »
Putting my money on the thermo switch as well. This WILL cause it to spew antifreeze everywhere. I wish I didn't know that for certain, however, I have been there.  So happy to see some warm weather so I can finally install my override switch.  Just trying to figure out where I want to mount it. 
Anyone cut through the dash yet?  And did it spiderweb the paint or put hairline cracks in it?
Have a couple locations I'm thinking of but little hesitant on cutting a hole in the painted plastic. 
I cut one in close to the steering column. No sweat. Used a blank from one of the extras to mark it and grabbed the multitool.
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Offline badbuggy

Re: overheating while plowing snow
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2017, 09:11:05 AM »
i've put switches in the dash to the right of the steering wheel where there were 2 rectangular cut outs. The only problem I had was these don't want to stay snapped in when I flip the toggle switches. A little tape or glue around the edges is a pretty decent fix for that problem though. These cut outs on mine just snapped out no cutting involved there.
Just drill a hole to allow the toggle to come through and your pretty much done. (if you are using a toggle switch).
Update: I waited to long to go get anti-freeze so I will have to wait til later this week to check things out again...

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Offline flash

Re: overheating while plowing snow
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2017, 04:11:04 PM »
Hey GF, I just put ours under the dash in the black plastic part that's
under the switch's, didn't wanna cut a hole in the dash.
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Offline gfmoto

Re: overheating while plowing snow
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2017, 12:13:55 AM »
Hey GF, I just put ours under the dash in the black plastic part that's
under the switch's, didn't wanna cut a hole in the dash.
I was thinking about doing it there as well. 
@badbuggy- I'm using what looks like the factory rocker switch, completely with a lil fan symbol on it. Cute right ?!?  Lol.
@nmk- I did keep the factory cut out from the dash, esp after I read one of your early posts about using it to make another hole.
Not really worried about making the hole, more of a concern with making the paint start to crack or chip away once it's been compromised.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: overheating while plowing snow
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2017, 02:01:30 AM »
Hey GF, I just put ours under the dash in the black plastic part that's
under the switch's, didn't wanna cut a hole in the dash.
I was thinking about doing it there as well. 
@badbuggy- I'm using what looks like the factory rocker switch, completely with a lil fan symbol on it. Cute right ?!?  Lol.
@nmk- I did keep the factory cut out from the dash, esp after I read one of your early posts about using it to make another hole.
Not really worried about making the hole, more of a concern with making the paint start to crack or chip away once it's been compromised.
It cut like it was all soft plastic..no chipping. I used a fine toothed tip. One thing, when you use a blank, it's slightly large for the switch so cut a bit inside the line, then make adjustments as needed with a file.
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