[klm3030]

Strictly for farm use but will be used often and sometimes hard.  Need to replace a Massimo MSU 500 (pain in the ass) but I have managed to keep it going for eight years, no dealer or factory support.  I swore off of any Chinese junk, but good Japanese and American built are priced out of my pay grade.  Thinking about a uforce 800 or 1000. Problem is closest dealer 160 miles, I want above all good reliability.  Would like to input from any farmers/ranchers especially how good is the warranty, dealer support and factory support.

 

[jeg11010]

I know you are talking about a SxS but I'll give you my experience with an ATV. Bought a 21 CForce 600 Touring in late January 2022 as the 22 models were coming out. I paid $6899. The '22 models were $7299 when they came out. Now they are $7499. An equivalent Polaris 570 Touring is now $9499. A difference of $2,000.

The day after I picked up my machine, the starter seized with less than 5 miles on it. Had to bring it in to have that replaced.
A few weeks later, water got inside the display and messed up the LCD at around 35 miles. Had to bring it in again to have the screen replaced.
Luckily, I have a dealer that is around 30 miles way but I was really starting to wish I just paid a few grand more to get the Polaris.

Now, at around the 400 mile mark, I haven't had any issues since what I mentioned above. I have a KFI Plow on it now, ready to move snow. The high-revving ride takes a little getting used to but overall I think it is a pretty good machine with some nice features.

Factory support is pretty useless. I've emailed them multiple times about torque specs, oil levels and oil weights and they said they didn't know and deferred me to the dealer. Dealer support can be hit or miss. There are some dealers that carry the CFMoto line secondary to all the other things they sell and don't know that much about them. I'd be worried about that because there is always the potential that they give it up and stop selling them. Other dealers are more focused on CFMoto, some exclusive to CFMoto. Call your perspective dealer and ask them questions: how many units do they sell, how long have they been selling the brand, how many service techs do they have, etc. You should be able to tell pretty quickly how committed they are.

I also bought a 5 year warranty with it. I don't think I would have bought a CFMoto without the extended warranty or without having 3 dealers within an hour radius. From what I can gather, parts are expensive (more so than other brands). CFMoto are sticklers about approving warranty claims, according to my dealer, so don't expect everything that goes wrong with it to be fixed without question while under warranty. On the other hand, Polaris and CanAm have their own share of issues. The difference is that there is very little videos, documentation, or support online for repair procedures like there are for the name brands so if you are a DIYer, you can get a service manual but you are pretty much on your own.
 
Good luck

[Lazydayz]

Everyone’s option an experiences
Will differ

I have a Uforce 1000 2021 that I bought with out ever seeing one lol

there are some changes to the 22

My dealer is amazing haven’t had an issue with anything I don’t even bring my machine in I tell them what’s wrong an they order parts an I install that’s my option thou they will install at no charge I just prefer to do it myself

Since new I’ve had a shock replaced a steering rack an the bracket that holds the shift cable

All were no questions asked replacements

Drivability
The 21 an under where clutched very jerky that has been some what addressed in 22
A bit of clutch work solves it pretty nicely

I use mine for everything
I haul a trailer for fire wood
I treat it like a sport machine at times
I camp an trail ride it a lot

I’ve got 3500kms on it now an I’d buy another
Hope this helps

[Ulfthednar]

So, long time mechanically inclined maintaining via necessity and sometimes fun my own vehicles for 40 years or so.
I have had some actual hands on training in the motorcycle field as well as automotive.
I have a decent set of fabrication skills, manufacturing and production background and a very high degree of skills in areas for "fixing" a lot of things.

Ive never owned an ATV/UTV before this but have had various vehicles and motorcycles through the years.

It is shifting a bit right now, but having noted the OVER PRICED established models as well as doing a lot of digging and research I found that EVERY MAJOR ATV/UTV builder has a comparable number or recalls and issues as CFmoto.
 
It is publicly more acceptable it seems though, because they are "established brands" (which should have fewer recalls) than the upstart CFMoto brand.

CFMotos primary electronics are Bosch.
CFMotos Drive system is CVTech (look them up)
And they have a partnership with KTM. Im not really a dirt bike guy but KTM is a known name and well established.

Three manufacturers with their names and reputations on the line working with CFMoto.

That should say something about the reality that they are taking CFMoto seriously, even if others are resistant.

From my own perspective, my CForce ATV is actually refreshingly fairly easy to work on, even with the v-twin engine design. The front valves are a bit fiddly to get to. Easy to set but a minor pain to gap easily.

I actually do not hate working on mine. I have worked on numerous import bikes and vehicles that trended towards (hand me a grenade) violence because they are such a flaming pain in the arse to work on. They were not built to be readily worked on but taken to a shop where they can disassemble the vehicle to change spark plugs and such stupid crap that should be readily accessible to a competent mechanic.

American vehicles are getting just as bad if not worse.

I have rebuilt several engines, several manual transmissions, differentials and transfer cases as well as worked my way through suspension rebuilds and never had my work fail. I am not saying Im an expert or an ACE, but competent enough to take my time and do things correctly.

So far, the manufacturing on my bike is reassuring. Ive said it before, nice clean welds, good fitment (even with the plastics) and so on. The detailing at the factory and the Dealership were good. But I might have picked a dealer that cares about what its selling and does a better job final assembly wise and it sounds like not all of them do.
I found one bolt that wasnt torque marked that came loose and that was not a critical part. Nothing that was marked has shifted a bit.

Once I learned how to utilize a CVT type transmission (read the manual dummy) rather than a manual or true auto trans, Ive had zero complaints. In other words my initial unfamiliarity with the drive system caused me a few issues, but not the machine.

I use mine for a work horse and recreational toy. Ive pulled a loaded trailer (several hundred pounds) with 14 inch tires uphill through 24 inches of snow (tracks, I need tracks) with it and climbed my ridge which reaches 40 degrees or better at points with snow on the ground. a foot of snow doesnt even slow this thing down.
I've also hauled logs downhill with it and it has yet to flinch in the least doing so. I used the winch straight off to skid an 80 foot tall tree off the hill so I could get to it and it handled that effortlessly.
I have also had an absolute blast trail riding with this thing and even if it is a bit slow turning it has handled some pretty decent trails (comparing to videos Ive seen at least intermediate level riding). I live in the mountains, rugged terrain is the norm.

I'm not faulting the manufacturer at all. I have one led in one tail light thats flickering but considering that while I dont abuse it, I do use it hard Im pretty sure I likely caused that. Flying rocks and gravel and such ya know.

Again I have an ATV, 2022 CForce 800XC. I am quite happy with it overall.
I also work on one that the resort I work for uses for plowing and the main issues I have seen with it is abusive handling such as the smart kid at work that doesn't know tire tech from a hole in the ground and someone slam shifting it while it is still moving. I've been learning off working on it as well as mine.
(we grounded the kid from the one at work for the time being)
The machine gets really heavy use as it is our heaviest utility plow vehicle. I have personally plowed on that one for eight hours straight and it has yet to hesitate or fail us.
When you utilize its weight and size the one at work can really move a lot of snow.
I used it the other day to work through four feet of county plow berms to get our sidewalks cleared again, frozen packed snow and ice. I had to angle the machine up on top so I could shave them down layer by layer and the machine handled it admirably.
Notably it was purchased at the same dealer I got mine from, which leads to a reinforced guess that a lot of initial issues are caused by indifferent dealerships as well as failing to follow the break in procedure.

I followed mine almost to the letter (well within warranty standards) and I felt the engine components seat and settle in and the machine start running smoother and more powerfully.

So my experience with two of the CForce 800s has been pretty positive.

I am already working on stashing spare bits and pieces (predictable wear and tear parts) because I plan on keeping this thing for awhile.

Also looking forward to sliders and an ECM tune to really dial this thing in. I do wish there was a local ECM tuner, because I want to RIDE mine, not stare at it while waiting for my ECM to come back.

[klm3030]

Thank you guys for three really good reviews, makes me think that maybe cfmoto people are a better class of people.  One thing is clear based on your reviews, dealer support and knowledge is absolutely critical, looks like my nearest dealer is in Independence MO.