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#1
CForce 800, X8 / Re: Cforce 800 EPS failure
November 04, 2021, 03:07:36 PM
Quote from: NMKawierider on November 04, 2021, 02:26:31 PM
I think I would unbolt the torque sensor and see if there was any obvious damage. There's a little bar that gets broken sometimes on others like Kawasaki.

I will do that!  Thanks.  the error code doesn't start flashing until I put pressure on the handlebars either left or right so I am thinking the sensor is working and it is probably the motor.  I will check that bar and also put probes in the power cables for the motor to be sure though before I drop $1000 on a new motor. 

Looking at more parts diagrams, I think I see why it's $1000.  it looks like part number 9CR6-103300-20000 is the whole assembly including the electric motor and torque sensor, so that explains the cost I guess...  Doesn't look like I can purchase just the electric motor or the sensor separately.
#2
CForce 800, X8 / Re: Cforce 800 EPS failure
November 04, 2021, 01:03:28 PM
Thank you!  I pulled the eps motor and applied pressure to the handle bars. The motor did not move.  Looking for pins to probe the wires from the torque sensor and into the motor to see where the power is failing. A new motor is $1000 for just the part according to the shop I go through.  Yikes!

*note, first photo is the motor, and the second photo is the torque sensor in case anyone else is new to the EPS on these things like I am...
#3
CForce 800, X8 / Re: Cforce 800 EPS failure
November 04, 2021, 11:48:06 AM
Quote from: NMKawierider on November 04, 2021, 11:04:14 AM
Quote from: Chadillac on November 04, 2021, 10:35:23 AM
I recently purchased a 2016 Force 800 and am getting error code 32.  I have changed the Relay, 40 amp fuse and the EPS ECU (not cheap) however I am still getting the code and the power steering does not work at idle.  I haven't tried to see if it works when the ATV is being driven since the front cover is still off etc...  Any additional thoughts on what could be causing the issue?  To say this is frustrating would be an understatement...  Thanks!
Code 32="Motor power-assistance abnormal" which means the motor isn't doing what it should. It could be a power supply issue yes, but it could also be a bad motor, torque sensor or ECU...except that was replaced. I would test the power supply to the motor with the key on and pressure on the bars. Try each way. If you do not get 12 volts, then look to things like the torque sensor or the motor power supply fuse and it's holder..yes the fuse holder. CFM has has many that have has internal connection failures. If it has power, then it's likely the motor itself had a problem.

I was worried you would say that.  :-). I will test the power with a volt meter today and report back on the results.  Can you share where the Torque sensor is located so I can take a look at that as well please?  Thank you!
#4
CForce 800, X8 / Re: Cforce 800 EPS failure
November 04, 2021, 10:35:23 AM
I recently purchased a 2016 Force 800 and am getting error code 32.  I have changed the Relay, 40 amp fuse and the EPS ECU (not cheap) however I am still getting the code and the power steering does not work at idle.  I haven't tried to see if it works when the ATV is being driven since the front cover is still off etc...  Any additional thoughts on what could be causing the issue?  To say this is frustrating would be an understatement...  Thanks!
#5
You sure did.  Thank you.  Unfortunately, even after replacing the ECU, I am still getting code 32.  To say this is frustrating is an understatement.  If anyone has any additional ideas, I would greatly appreciate them.  Thanks!
#6
Hey Everyone,

I purchased a 2016 Force 800 EPS yesterday and of course am having issues with the Power Steering. I am getting code 32 and have been trying to troubleshoot it.  I have checked and replaced the 40A fuse in the back left (as you are facing the front of the ATV) of the battery compartment, Changed the EPS Relay and replaced a melted 30A fuse in the back right of the battery compartment.  I am trying to verify what those fuses are for and that the size is the right one to be there and also try to "Check and fix motor wiring contact status, If still not work, replace ECU" per the EPS troubleshooting guide.

I am looking for the Service Manual for the 2016 model year to help identify the fuse sizes/purpose and also to expose the ECU so I can check with wiring.  I would prefer not to remove the entire front end body panels and hope the manual gives me an easier way to get at the wires.  Long story short, I am wondering if anyone has a link to the service manual for this ATV.  All I have found so far was published in 2011 so doesn't align with the 2016 model.

Thank you!