Don't know about the 2023 UForce 1000, but on the 2023 ZForce Gen2 the factory wire harness has two connections, one for backup lights and one for turn signals. But the rear lights only has bulbs and wires for one. So depending on which connection is made between the rear lights and the wire harness you get either backup lights or turn signals, but not both. There are two models of the 2023 Zforce Gen2, one for the US that doesn't have the turn signals wired up but instead has the backup lights, and one for the rest of the world including Canada which is wired for turns signals but not backup lights. If the same is true for the UForce and you have turn signals then it may not be possible to get backup lights without installing extra lights.
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#62
ZForce 800 EX, 53 & Trail / Re: New to me 2021 ZForce 800 EX drive belt question
October 04, 2023, 09:57:51 AMQuote from: NMKawierider on October 03, 2023, 08:56:36 AM
Carrying a burned belt for a spare is also a bit crazy...lol. As much PITA as it is to change one on these it better be a good one.
That's my thinking as well! I popped the cover off to examine my belt - one bolt is a bit of a bear to get to! All I saw on the belt was a small area about 1-1/2 to 2" long that had a bit of a shine to it - nothing really bad. I scuffed it up a bit and put everything back together. We'll see how it does on the next trip out, and/or if my GF shines up the rest of the belt with her "more power Scotty" style of driving.
#63
ZForce 800 EX, 53 & Trail / Re: New to me 2021 ZForce 800 EX drive belt question
October 03, 2023, 07:14:15 AMQuote from: NMKawierider on October 02, 2023, 07:49:15 PM
No, I sure wouldn't want to do a trail-side belt change on one of these...and I'm sure my wife wouldn't be amused either. Better to take a tow strap and be pulled back in. I keep a 15-footer under my seat.
Good to know but it kind of negates keeping the old belt as a spare. If I should replace the existing belt and not try putting any more trail time on it keeping it back in the shop as a spare, then when or why would the spare ever get used? LOL Seems a bit like carrying around a flat spare tire - just in case it might be needed on the road.
Life without a little bit of risk is boring. Luckily the guy I off-road with carries a tow strap - I carry the air pump and cooler full of drinks.
#64
ZForce 800 EX, 53 & Trail / Re: New to me 2021 ZForce 800 EX drive belt question
October 02, 2023, 06:12:33 PMQuote from: NMKawierider on October 02, 2023, 01:50:52 PM
Smoking the belt ensures it's now not only glazed and has burned compounds, but will start coming apart right at the worst time. Do yourself a favor and change it before the trip and use the old one as a spare after scotch-briting the glazed areas.
That's the plan. Have the new belt in hand and just waiting on the arrival of some of the additional tools needed. Doesn't look like it's a "fix by the side of the trail" sort of repair though, so I'm not sure just how useful having a spare belt handy can be. I thought about roughing up the old belt surface and also wonder how useful belt dressing might be. I use it on the V-belt drive on my tiller with good results. I remember my Dad used bees wax on the drive belts on his sawmill to keep them from slipping.
#65
ZForce 800 EX, 53 & Trail / Re: New to me 2021 ZForce 800 EX drive belt question
October 02, 2023, 01:39:18 PM
I don't know if this applies to the 2021 ZForce 800EX, but on my 2023 ZForce 800 the minimum belt width shown in the service manual is 33.5mm. The Belt is equivalent to an Ultimax UA485, so you might find the specs on it to see what the original width is and how much wear is permitted before replacement is needed.
As for the jerky starts and shiny belt, I can relate. On my last trip out my GF put mine in a ditch and tried to power her way out, generating some belt smoke before I could stop her. Since then mine has been jerky on starts. I haven't examined the belt or replaced it yet though. I did have it dealer serviced after that trip and they didn't mention anything about belt wear or possible replacement, although they found a few other minor items to fix. From what I've found, in many cases the wear on the belt from abuse like this often diminishes with a bit more use and wear. I'm going to let mine go for at least one other week long UTV trip and see how it goes. If it doesn't improve a bit I'll probably replace my belt.
As for the jerky starts and shiny belt, I can relate. On my last trip out my GF put mine in a ditch and tried to power her way out, generating some belt smoke before I could stop her. Since then mine has been jerky on starts. I haven't examined the belt or replaced it yet though. I did have it dealer serviced after that trip and they didn't mention anything about belt wear or possible replacement, although they found a few other minor items to fix. From what I've found, in many cases the wear on the belt from abuse like this often diminishes with a bit more use and wear. I'm going to let mine go for at least one other week long UTV trip and see how it goes. If it doesn't improve a bit I'll probably replace my belt.
#66
Introduce Yourself and Your Ride / Re: New Guy from Texas
October 01, 2023, 07:54:28 AM
Welcome! Also pretty new to the group with a 2023 Zforce Trail 800 that I've been "upgrading" a bit as well. Curious if you know of areas in and around Houston that offer good trail riding close to RV parks. We trailer the Zforce behind the RV. Recently got back from a week in Marysvale, UT and planning a week later this month in North Central Arkansas. Haven't found much in the way of good trails or off-road parks in Texas yet though, but still looking.
#67
Introduce Yourself and Your Ride / Re: New guy from Mo
September 28, 2023, 07:29:37 PM
Welcome! You're not the only 73 year old youngster here - I'm right there with you.
#68
ZForce 800 EX, 53 & Trail / Re: 2017 Z800 trail Drive belt
September 27, 2023, 01:36:39 PMQuote from: NMKawierider on September 12, 2023, 04:11:39 PMQuote from: maddvector on September 12, 2023, 01:34:37 PMIt goes to 7.5" so it should be fine. 5.9" is the minimum as I recall.
Will this tool hold the clutches while I am torque them to specs?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VHYCT8H/?coliid=I1XWLIEB8L77H4&colid=1OI81NS39KR0G&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Any other suggestions will be appreciated!
The Amazon description says it fits sprocket holes larger than 1/2" or 12mm. Aren't the sprocket holes on the CFMoto 6 or 8mm? The price is certainly attractive given that the CFMoto tool lists for about $170 though.
#69
ZForce 950/1000 Sport & EX / Re: Z-Force 950/1000 Sport connectors
September 24, 2023, 01:46:32 PM
Thanks for all the detailed research and the extremely useful links!
#70
UForce 1000 XLS / Re: Male and female pins in connectors
September 23, 2023, 11:19:19 AM
When I was installing the flashers and horn on my Zforce 800 Trail I noticed that some connectors didn't have all the pins installed. I suspect the reason was to try and make the connectors different so that it would be impossible to connect the wrong plugs into the wire harness. In the end the missing pins didn't matter as when I plugged everything into the only places they'd mate to, everything just worked.
However, it would be nice if someone could identify type and source where one could buy the connectors and pins that are used by CFMoto so they could build their own wire harnesses for aftermarket accessory installs.
However, it would be nice if someone could identify type and source where one could buy the connectors and pins that are used by CFMoto so they could build their own wire harnesses for aftermarket accessory installs.
#71
UForce 1000 XLS / Re: How do you identify the plug and play pigtails under the dash?
September 22, 2023, 05:00:34 PM
If you have a smart phone, either Android or iPhone, you an download the Google Translate APP. Using it to take a picture of the Chinese tag and it will display the translation in English (or whatever language you choose). That's what I did.
#72
Information Center / Re: CFMoto Parts & Accessory Suppliers
September 16, 2023, 02:45:15 PM
Both cfmotoparts.com and cfmoto.ttmotorsports.com are CFMoto dealers and offer the same parts at the same prices. The cfmotoparts site carries are larger inventory of parts for lots of CFMoto units, but its web site is a real bear to try and navigate and find things unless you have the CFMoto part number. Ttmotorsports has a smaller inventory but has a clean web interface.
I recently searched both sites for a windshield, mirrors and cargo box for my Gen2 800 Trail. Got the same prices from both places but cfmotoparts wanted over $200 for shipping the "large items"; ttmotorsports had a flat shipping fee of $15 and delivered in just a few days.
I recently searched both sites for a windshield, mirrors and cargo box for my Gen2 800 Trail. Got the same prices from both places but cfmotoparts wanted over $200 for shipping the "large items"; ttmotorsports had a flat shipping fee of $15 and delivered in just a few days.
#73
Information Center / Re: Recommended Drive Belts for CF Motos
September 16, 2023, 02:39:08 PMQuote from: Hamster on January 18, 2021, 06:53:30 PM
For CForce 800/850 XC and 1000 XC (2019 on) - Ultimax UA485
The CVT drive belt used on the CFMoto Zforce 800 Trail, and 950 Trail and Sport (all 2023 Gen2) is 0JWA-055000-10000 and CFMoto has replaced that part number with the Ultimax UA485. Timken/Ultimax shows that the UXP485 can also be used. The UA485 has a 2 year warranty, the UXP485 has a 3 year warranty. I haven't been able to find any cross reference tables to cross these to other manufacturer CVT belts.
#74
How To's (New Topics are to be Instructional Only) / Re: Seat riser brackets
September 14, 2023, 12:17:57 PM
My 2023 Gen2 Trail 800 seems to have the seats sitting a bit low for me, and way too low for my SO. I solved the problem by just picking up a couple of gel foam seats at Walmart for about $28/per. Not only does it raise my seat height, but it also provides a lot more cushioning for those really bumpy rides that rattle my old bones. :-)
#75
ZForce 800 EX, 53 & Trail / Re: Fuel Capacity 2023 Zforce 800 Trail Gen 2
September 13, 2023, 06:38:39 PM
The CFMoto Service Manual for the Trail 800 Gen2 says the tank is 37L or 9.7gal (US). The indicator turns yellow at 11.5L or 3gal (US). I haven't run mine down to get the yellow indicator yet, but starting with a full tank I ran it down to 1 bar on the display (and ran for some time with 1 bar) before refueling. I put a little over 5gal in which didn't fill the tank all the way but did light up all the bars on the dash display. Based on this I think the 9.7gal tank size is most likely correct.
I did notice that with the very first full tank on my brand new 800 I got about 40 miles until it showed it was down by 1 bar. On the second or third tank I paid closer attention and seemed to get about 95 miles on the first bar. Both of these observations were with the 800 sitting on level ground.
I did notice that with the very first full tank on my brand new 800 I got about 40 miles until it showed it was down by 1 bar. On the second or third tank I paid closer attention and seemed to get about 95 miles on the first bar. Both of these observations were with the 800 sitting on level ground.
