Unless its posted elsewhere, I see there are service / owner manuals for the 800 and 600 in their respective forum but no manuals for the Z5 here?

So looking to find ATV/SxS insurance in Michigan, specifically Central / Northern Michigan where it is legal in most counties to ride on the road (only county roads).   I have checked with the following agencies, and have commented on each.   For Michigan riders ... who are you insured with?

Nationwide - Price was good, no exclusions for riding (verbally by phone agent), trying to get this in writing. - Right now this is my ist choice to sign with.

Progressive - Excludes / restricts on road riding unless you are just crossing the road to get to a trail system. 

Liberty Mutual - Excludes / restricts on road riding unless you are just crossing the road to get to a trail system.

Rider - Covers riding on Legal roads (I assume they would cover riding on county roads since it is legal).  Was really expensive insurance.

Geico - Will not quote Michigan online or over the phone.   Have to request an application be mailed to the house.   Talked to an agent, he stated it was because of Michigan insurance laws (only provider that could not provide quote so far)

Is there any speed limitation on the flip windshield running it in the open position?     I have not researched this question yet, but thought I would ask on this new windshield post.

I appreciate the comments, I'm upgrading to a sxs from a lifted golf cart where we ride on mostly flat land low speed trails / logging roads etc.....  when comparing prices and options, seems 20% $$$ more for the 800 over the 500 might be better spent to equip with accessories such as windshield, back window, air filter etc ....

Been reading posts in all categories ... I have narrowed my side by side purchase to the CFMoto Zforce series over the wildcat or rzr.   Now trying to decide between 2017 Z500 or Z800.  I understand the new 500HO is approx 10% more hp and 13%more torque than the older 600?

I am an older rider who does not hot rod around the trails, so my belief is the 500 should be fine.  I have test drove only the 500, will be going back for another test drive before purchase where I will attempt to test both 500 and 800.

Excellent forum!

Looks great!, Hows it running, are you satisfied with the 500?   I'm still trying to decide if the $1800 up charge is worth the money going to the Z800 trail.

Does the 2017 Z500 HO have the thermo switch failure issue also?

Still looking to buy myself, getting close.   Now looking at the 2017 500HO Zforce, the price point is excellent.   Getting close to 2018 model release I assume?   Any changes coming with the 2018 models over 2017?

As someone who is highly interested in a CFMOTO 800 Trail but who has not purchased yet I would leave this post up and alive.   It makes me feel extremely more confident in purchasing this product by the way you guys are responding to this and standing up for both the product line and the company.  My 2 cents!