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#46
Guys, the Gen2 Zforce 950 Trail and Sport use the same setups as the Gen2 Zforce Trail 800.  I did a writeup on putting turn signals on the 800 that's in the How To section.  I don't know about the 950 HO, but the Service Manual for the 800 covers the 950 Trail and Sport - no mention of the HO.

Basically the rear turn signals are activated by switching a plug behind the right rear quarter panel.  In the US version the backup lights are wired; in the Canadian version the backup lights are used for rear turn signals. There are two plugs in the right rear quarter panel, one for the backup lights and one for the turn signals.  There's only one plug on the tail light assemblies though, so you need to disconnect the backup light plug from it and plug in the turn signal plug.
#47
Contacted two dealers in my area and neither knew anything about this.  Tried contacting Customer Support at CFMoto and got no response.
#48
The dealer I spoke with a week or so ago was unaware of the parking brake install program and told me that until the CFMoto database is updated showing my Gen2 (or any of the stock they have on the floor) needs the upgrade, there's nothing they can do. Apparently on warranty issues like this CFMoto attaches the need for the update to the VIN number in their database which is what the dealers access. Even though I had the park numbers he was unable to even place them on order.

I suspect CFMoto is controlling the roll-out of the updates so that demand doesn't over-run their ability to supply the necessary parts.  The upgrade program runs thru the end of the calendar year though, so I guess we still have a lot of time to get it done.
#49
UForce 1000 / Re: Uforce 1000 headliner
March 04, 2024, 01:19:27 PM
I had the same problem trying to find something like that for my Zforce 800 Gen2 Trail.  Ended up finding something which had the right dimensions and had storage pockets that I liked but without any way to mount it.  I built a mounting bracket out of some metal conduit that I attached to the mount points in the roof and was able to attach the headliner storage to it.
#50
Just a thought, but make sure you don't have any loose connections. Those CFMoto connectors can be a bear to get together and even harder to get apart.  Also, verify that all the other lights, switches and electrical stuff works - especially head lights, brake lights and possibly backup lights.  You might have blown a fuse on some circuit that affects the lights - if you haven't done the wire connection swap in the right rear quarter panel you should have backup lights as well as brake lights.  Not sure if you'll have turn signal indicator lights on the dash if the turn signals aren't working, but it's worth checking.   If everything is working you will have indicator lights on the dash for the turn signals and hazard lights.  Good luck, and wish I was headed out to the BLM trails with you!
#51
Just verified this morning, with the Hazard switch removed/disconnected the turn signals still work as expected.
#52
I believe the turn signals should work without the hazard switch installed, but the wiring diagrams aren't that detailed.  (When I installed turn signals on my previous Honda UTV I had to build my own wire harness and I had them working with or without the hazard switch, but no telling what CFMoto might have done in their wiring.)  You should at least have the turn signals working on the front if you used the CFmoto parts.  The rear signals require swapping the wire connectors behind the right rear quarter panel though.  I'll see if I can pull my hazard switch and verify that the turn signals still work unless you find something in your efforts.
#53
ZForce 950/1000 Sport & EX / Re: Has anybody seen this...
February 20, 2024, 04:21:03 PM
Just got back from talking to my dealer about this and according to him until CFMoto attaches the Warranty notice to my VIN they can't do anything.  We looked up my VIN on the CFMoto database and it doesn't have this notice tagged.  We also queried all the ZForce 800 and 950's they had in stock to see if any of them were tagged and they weren't either.  We suspect CFMoto is only tagging VINs when they have the parts ready to ship, so it make take them a few months to get all the upgradeable units tagged for this Warranty upgrade.
#54
I think you said earlier that you'd purchased an aftermarket turn signal kit.  Did you use the flasher module from that kit or did you get the CFMoto Flasher?  Not all flasher modules are the same and an aftermarket one may not work.  And there are different CFMoto Flasher part numbers, one for the Gen1 (2022 and earlier) and one for the Gen2 (2023).  The part number in my writeup is for the Gen2 (2023).

Also, did you just remove the dust cover from the connector, or did you also do something like try to pry out the yellow plastic?  You should have ONLY removed the dust cover.
#55
General Discussion / Re: 23 Uforce 100, no tail lights.
January 28, 2024, 07:30:11 AM
Not sure if this is the case, but some manufacturers are now using the brake lights as tail lights by reducing the voltage to get a dimmer illumination when the tail lights are active.  My 2023 Chevy Spark does this sending 9v for tail lights and 12v for brake lights/turn signals.  But this requires a module in the circuit to adjust the voltage.  Since the turn signals require a flasher module that circuit might be in there, and if read your post right you haven't installed a flasher module yet.  A typical flasher module only needs 3 wires, but the flasher module on my 2023 Zforce 800 has 5 or 6 which may be the case on the Uforce 100, so that may be where your "missing tail lights are hiding".
#56
According to the service manual I have on Gen 2 (950 Trail/Sport and 800 Trail)  the Coolant Temperature Sensor has three wires.  Two form a circuit which provides coolant temperature signal to the ECU, the third  goes to the dash.  Assuming CFMoto used the same part in Gen 1 that would match what you've found.
#57
Wow! That's great news.  I just e-mailed my dealer to find out if I can get this installed on my Trail 800.
#58
Quote from: walko on November 26, 2023, 05:12:17 AM
Too, looking for a 2023 Zforce 950 Sport (800Trail, 950 Trail..., supposed to be all in same manual). New model.
A pdf copy, or where can be bought (in pdf, since ship to europe isn“t viable)

thanks


Thought I saw on one of the CFMoto dealer websites here in the US that the PDF manuals were no longer available.  I bought the hardcopy shown in your photo and I can tell you the wiring diagrams in the manual are pretty close is useless.  They're extremely small print and fairly low resolution so I wasn't able to really blow them up much for my use.
#59
General Discussion / Re: Blank Dash Switches
November 09, 2023, 03:54:47 PM
They're for the turn signals, hazard (4-way) flashers and horn.  The versions sold outside the US have them installed, the US models don't.  The wire harness is identical for both the US and non-US models so it support upgrades.  You can buy the switches and flasher module and install them in a US model and get all those functions.  I wrote an article on how to do this in the 2023 Zforce 800 Trail and 950 Trail/Sport that's in the How To section. It includes the part numbers and detailed instructions.
#60
Glad my efforts have been helpful to others.  The CFMoto parts aren't cheap compared to similar parts from places like Amazon, but the Plug-n-Play aspect can be priceless.  Finding the CFMoto parts can be challenging and requires patience as they're typically not kept in stock with most dealers though.  I had one part on backorder for about two months, but it finally came back in stock and was shipped out to me.