Trouble again.

Wife and I were heading to fishing hole.
Been on road about 10ish miles. Blacktop. In 2 wheel drive.
Everything was going fine until it wasn't.

Moto engine sounded as if it was way way bogged down. Then the rear wheels locked up. Went skidding about 20ft and went off side of road. Landed on driver side.

No serious injuries. Got a little road rash on shoulder, left arm. No seat belt. Wife a few bruises from seat belt. Knot on shin.

Tell you one thing the good Lord was watching over us yesterday. Could have ended a LOT worse than it did.

Shut off moto with key, wife and I climbed out. Shook the poop out my britches leg and before I could get Cell phone out of pocket to take pictures. Guy came along in truck and flipped back over on the wheels.

Gave it about 5 minutes and started back up.
Started just fine. Put in gear and wouldn't budge. Engine sounded as if it was bogged down. No forward no reverse no moving machine won't move. Can't push in gear with or without engine running. Can push by hand in neutral. Even in neutral the engine sounds bogged down. If I remember correctly.

We loaded on trailer in neutral has no trouble rolling. Off load at home and parked it.

Since it will roll in neutral the differential isn't locked.

Don't even know where to start looking to see what's wrong.

Any advice?

Thinking about starting again. Listen to engine. Remove cvt belt. Then listen to engine. Compare the difference.. See if can move the trans side of cvt to see if it will spin with cvt belt off. Then go from there.

Anything I should look for?

The machine is a 2013 Uforce 600. 2013 Cf600-5

This started a few weeks ago with a front axle nut backing out. Had to use winch and my ladder rack on my truck to get the POS home. When nut came off and not noticing until too late. The threads on the axle were ate up. Ordered new axle and installed.

After that repair went for a little test ride. Was acting like CVT belt was slipping and heard a clicking in driver rear axle.

The wheel side of axle boot was destroyed. So I was able to flip the cage that the bearing fit in. Fill with grease. Install a boot.
Test drive. The POS wouldn't pull a grease string out of a cat's (you know the rest).

Replaced the CVT belt, changed oil, filter, spark plug. Test drive again. Would move out of it own way.

Downed again. Both rear tires off ground. Pulled CVT cover. Rechecked everything.  Started with cover off. Shifted in gear. Belt pulled. Wheels spun. Belt did its thing with RPMs increase up and down the primary and secondary. Didn't notice any wore spots in the belt. Cover back on test drive again. Very high RPM to get the thing to move. High, low, or reverse.

How hard of a job is it to replace the wet clutch?
Where is a good source for the part?
Could it be something else?
Anybody want to buy this POS? Thinking real hard about having a weenie roast or target practice.

It is possible, 50/50 chance, I drug the POS home, about 4 miles, in gear. Been so long ago can't remember, was dark out when SHTF. I wasn't in a very good mood.

Just a question about the CVT belt blower and the exhaust blower, wouldn't/doesn't that rob some of the horsepower from our engines.

Just like a mechanical fan on an engine in our vehicles rob some of the horsepower. That is one reason they have electric fans to cool down the radiator.

Would a bilge fan for a boat supply enough air to keep things cool?

Build a snorkel. Put filter and fan inline. Hook fan to a keyed fused hot so won't leave on accidentally. Remove fan blades from engine. Probably have to do a snorkel for each. Gain a few HP or it has been tried but didn't work.

I don't have any need to attempt. Don't need to go that fast but I seem some others on here that may have a use for it.

I see that most of the bilge fans are rated at 130 CFM would that keep the areas cool enough? AND wouldn't that help the MPG a little?

Just a thought.

On a 2013 cf600-5 UFORCE 600 the right rear axle was replaced when I bought it.
I noticed the axle wasn't fully seated in the differential and leaking oil after putting about 50 miles on it.

Today I tore apart to discover the keeper ring on the diff side of axle was compressed completely in the grove. Then axle wasn't even engaging the splines in the diff when I started. I popped the ring off and cleaned the grove. Cleaned splines and reassembled.  Everything seemed to be back as it should. Filled diff with oil and tested it out.

The oil seal is leaking so that has to be replaced. The axle has some slop where it fits in the diff. I can move forward, back, up, or down about 1/16 to 1/8 inch. I'm taking down again tomorrow to see if axle is still engaged or has popped out. Will try to get part number off the replacement axle and oil seal. If I can get part number off seal, hopefully auto parts store can find a match.

The left axle is still OEM and has no play, so I'm thinking the right shouldn't either.
Does anyone have a cross reference for 0180-334003 the oil seal? 65x90x9NS.
What does the NS stand for?
Does anyone know the mic specs on the axle splines.
Would/Could an aftermarket axle be within specs and still have slop/movement in the diff?

Does anyone know the torque spec on the axle nut? I really don't like using the formula P=plenty.

I'll post some pics tomorrow.

Thanks

Essayons

Just purchased a new to me 2013 CF600-5. Found out from this forum it was limited production and specs were close to a Rancher.

I look forward to adding to this forum as I can. Will probably be a headache to a few trying to figure this thing out. And receiving more help than I give.

Have already received a lot of help. The last couple of days.

I work on network and POS systems in a retail environment. Travel all over the US.
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Hello all,

Just bought a new (to me) 2013 CF600-5. From looking over the forum, I understand it is aka SWAT or Rancher. The machine has low miles 265. I asked the owner repeated it mileage was correct. If speedo was ever disconnected and reconnect later. He assured me mileage was correct and never disconnected. Said it was his wife's and wasn't driven a lot.

Anyway, my question is, how easy should these roll when the park brake is off and machine is in neutral. Seems like it a lot of throttle to get it moving.

The machine is kinda loud. Can't hold a conversation with passenger without shouting.

The previous owner replaced the right rear axle. Due to boot being ripped and mud getting in CV joint. I see that the axle is new. But has a space on the top of the seal(?) where the axle goes in the differential housing (hogs head). But the bottom has no space. And the driver's side is flush top and bottom. Think I'm going to try and "tap" the top in. Just want to know if that would hurt anything. I'll take a pic and upload once I start working on it.

I'm going to jack up each wheel and see how easy they spin. To see if a brake may be sticking or something.

Sorry about the long read.

Thanks in advance.

Killer Kilgore.