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#1
General Discussion / Re: Wouldn't Crank Over
June 13, 2023, 04:18:26 PM
finally fixed it... Buddy of mine has a mechanic shop. he never messed with a cfmoto so looked at it as a challenge. It was determined the solonoid, or relay switch, or whatever you wanna call it was bad. I ordered a new one and it was bad too. Well, he had a solonoid off of a ford layin around the shop there, so he manufactured a bracket and mounted it on there. Been a couple months now and its been workin great ever since.
#2
General Discussion / Re: Wouldn't Crank Over
April 25, 2023, 10:52:21 PM
1. When you turn the key to the ON position, does the dash light up? .....YES
2. Id the dash lights up, when you turn the key to the starter position, does the dash lights dim? does it click ? or no click and no change in dash lights? ......NO CLICK-NO CHANGE
Kill switch in RUN position
I'm hesitant to dive in to this thing myself, as i might end up worse off than i already am....haha
Was gonna get it to the shop but the dude with the truck and trailer bailed out...thinkin about puttin it in a uhaul box truck, Anybody ever haul theirs like that?

Just a little info--- i'm in a very small snowbird town. Born and raised here. Most friends are either moved or passed on. Dont know too many folks in my "new" town. This is why i'm havin trouble gettin my machine hauled to chandler, bout 120 miles from me.
#3
General Discussion / Re: Wouldn't Crank Over
April 08, 2023, 03:28:15 PM
here we go again....2022 z800 trail not cranking over. Tightened up battery cables and then it started right up. Well, this morning, no crank. Tightening up connections is about the limit of my expertise on this machine so looks like i'm gonna have to take it to the shop. Any other suggestions? thanks..
#4
hello MIcftrail ...
i just got a 2022 800 zforce trail 4 months ago. i've already changed motor oil and transmission oil....dip stick behind the passenger seat is transmission. The other one is motor oil.  My dealer also didnt know, i had to search all over to get info on this thing. Also, my dealer STILL doesn't have the right owners manual for my machine. Use the manual for the engine on the cforce 800xc, it has the same engine. Evidently, cfmoto changed the setup on the 2022 800 trail and didnt mention it to nobody, So i've heard. Drain plug for oil is on the bottom of engine, and trans drain is on the side at the bottom. This is on mine anyway. As far as the jerking you speak of, i was concerned about that too at first. Seems i've gotten the hang of it tho. I was tryin to take off by just easin the throttle down. Now i give it more throttle at take off and that seems to have solved alot of the jerking. I drive a lot of desert trails at a snails pace so i'm in low gear a lot. So far, this thing has been trouble free. It wouldnt crank over one morning, but turns out that was my fault. Forgot to press brake pedal before starting and wasnt all the way in park. Other than that, everything is good.
#5
General Discussion / Wouldn't Crank Over
January 16, 2023, 12:14:22 AM
i have a 2022 z800 trail. 300 easy miles on it. No water/mud. A few days ago it wouldn't crank over. As i've done a few times before, i forgot to press the brake before starting. Well, i pressed the brake and still no cranking over. The dash display lit up and i had lights, just wouldn't crank over. Tried neutral..nothing. Messed with the shifter...nothing. So i just sat there for about 5 minutes disgusted as hell. Decided to try again. Pressed the brake first this time, and it cranked right up. I been goin out every day since and have not had any more problems. Its been starting fine. My question..... Do you think i might have a mechanical problem, or could that situation be called operator error?
#6
2022 zforce 800 trail
320 miles
5 months old

No mechanical issues so far. Upgraded air filter, greased it, changed motor oil & filter, and changed transmission oil, all at 200 miles. Trouble free so far.

However, when i first got this machine, it had the new engine/transmission design. Well, i called the dealer and explained the situation. The owners manual i got says 1 dip stick for motor oil behind the passenger seat but mine has another dip stick back by the rear passenger tire. I wanted to confirm which dip stick was for motor oil, and which one was for transmission oil  and get this....service dept said they would get back to me. Parts dept knew nothing about a new engine design on the late 2022's. I had to do my own research to get it right. I had heard of one feller puttin motor oil in the transmission because thats where his manual said the oil fill was. So, if anyone is confused, on the late 2022 zforce 800 trail, motor oil dip stick is back by the rear passenger tire.....transmission dip stick is the one behind the passenger seat. Look at the owners manual for the cforce 800xc engine. Its the same engine as the 2022 zforce 800 trail.
Other than that, i love this thing.......so far
#7
Very good info ...thanks  i have a 2022 zforce 800 trail

  "filling it as per the book which is .28 letters or 9.46 Oz"
I have a 2022 z800 trail and my book shows 11.2oz for the front diff. 13.5oz for rear. I guess its changed? Maybe my manual is outdated?
#8
General Discussion / Fill to Spill? or Fill to Spec?
November 27, 2022, 10:49:15 PM
Seems to be a lot of different opinions on weather to fill to spill, or go by the book when changing the front and rear diff oils. My whole life i've done fill to spill on all the gear boxes i've come across. Of course i'm old so my ways might be obsolete. I have heard cfmoto used to say fill to spill but then changed it to less? If so, anybody know why?  Anyway, how many do the fill to spill and how many go by the book? Has anyone noticed any difference in performance by using either method?
#9
ZForce 800 EX, 53 & Trail / Transmission oil suggestion?
November 05, 2022, 12:57:20 PM
Gettin ready to change transmission oil in my 2022 zforce 800 trail for the first time. A bit confused on the type of oil. I've narrowed it down to 75w80 valvoline full synthetic gear oil, or Maxima(side by side specific) SXS transmission oil. Any suggestions? thx..
#10
ZForce 800 EX, 53 & Trail / Identify?
October 15, 2022, 11:47:28 AM
When i went to pull the oil drain plug, I found this laying on my skid plate. Anybody know what it is?

I have the 2022 cfmoto zforce 800 trail
#11
yeah, i feel like a idiot...i just found out i need to pull that lip outta the old one and put it on the new. I thought i had the wrong filter so i used the new foam from the new filter to put over the old filter beins as the old filter only has 177 easy miles on it so it was still clean. i gotta tell ya, i had a hellofa time with those clips holding the filter cover on. Any tricks to that or just pure strength. This the first time in 20 years i changed oil in anything due to back problems. I was painfully reminded i aint no young buck no more. (66)  I put the machine up on 4 car ramps so i could crawl my fat ass under it. That seemed to work pretty well. I live about 120 miles from the nearest shop with no means to get my machine over there for service so im more or less on my own for maintenance. Between youtube and this forum, i'm learning a lot so thanks to all here for an abundance of info.
#12
ok...oil changed. however, the air filter didnt fit. The lip on it was same size as the tube you put it in and it was shorter. Anybody got a part number for the air filter for the 2022 cfmoto zforce 800 trail?
at least now im positive the oil dip stick IS the one in the rear.
#13
i saw a video somewhere showing a guy changing his fan fuse on a zforce....dont know what year machine it was but he took off the hood in front and it looked as tho he removed the storage box and the fuse box was under there.
#14
On the new engine in the 2022 zforce 800 trail, I think I got it straight on what dip stick is what, and the type of transmission oil it takes. I got one more question. Has anything changed as far as the oil filter? Still the same as before?
thanks..
#15
Has anyone done a full service and replace all the fluids(engine, diffs, transmission) in their 2022 zforce 800 trail that has the NEW engine?