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Messages - Bryan Medlin

#1
Not real familiar with electrical problem so thought I would post question on here to get some starting points.  CFMOTO Cforce 600.  My son left key on and when I threw the battery charger on it was turned up all the way for a couple seconds before I noticed.  The instrument panel starting cycling through and doing some weird stuff.  It also sounded like the fuel pump was making a crazy loud sound as well.  Took it off - turned it down and left it for a couple hours.  Went back and the instrument panel is still going the cyle thing once, I don't hear the fuel pump at all, and won't turn over.  I can jump the solenoid to try to get it started and it does turn over.  Was just wanting some starting points and hoping for a simple fix.  Bad solenoid? Are there fuses on that cable somewhere?

Thanks in advance. 
#2
General Discussion / Re: Primary Clutch Problems
August 28, 2022, 09:37:44 PM
Why way should the one way spin? Right now it spins clockwise. If it is touching the sheething what might be some reasons? Thanks again for the help
#3
General Discussion / Re: Primary Clutch Problems
August 28, 2022, 06:38:17 PM
only ran it for a minute and then shut it off. 
#4
General Discussion / Re: Primary Clutch Problems
August 28, 2022, 06:37:29 PM


OK so I cleaned it got new belt and got new nylon sheeths to go on thrust plate.  Thought I torqued correctly - started it up and this is what happened.  Both the secondary and the primary both spin and wont shift into gears.  The bearing seemed to spin freely in the primary when I reassembled it.  I am not sure where to turn next.

Don't know why but the link to the video won't upload on forum so it is

https://youtube.com/shorts/8GacgsMntpI?feature=share

or copy and paste - https://youtube.com/shorts/8GacgsMntpI?feature=share
#5
General Discussion / Re: Primary Clutch Problems
August 21, 2022, 06:48:36 PM
Found this in another post but would this hold true for 600... In the post it said it did but just clarifying because I don't want to replace anything else (for now)

"The 1000 had the same clutch so the primary nut should be torqued to 82ftlbs, the retainer bolt to 45 and the secondary nit to 85"
#6
General Discussion / Re: Primary Clutch Problems
August 19, 2022, 06:05:23 PM
How clean does the drive fixed sleeve need to be?  I've been scrubing on it and it still has some rough spots near the base.  I thought about using the second drive sleeve that I bought since they seem to be exactly the same but the head on it is not compatable with the original thrust plate.  Also do you think I need to order the original weights or will the weights that were in the second one I bought be ok - just wondering if they were pretty standard.  Thanks again for the info
#7
General Discussion / Re: Primary Clutch Problems
August 19, 2022, 08:56:51 AM
Awesome. Thanks guys.  I was wondering what you would use to clean up the inside of the primary and polish up the outside of the original. Thanks again for the information
#8
General Discussion / Re: Primary Clutch Problems
August 11, 2022, 11:57:11 AM
The first four are from the clutch that I took off.  The second two are from the clutch that I put on that went bad (there are also a couple pictures above as well).  The last one is from the secondary. 

The inside of the original clutch was toast.  When I put the new clutch on there was a really loud rattle so I am not sure if it was the right one especially since it wasn't the original part number. 

I just don't want to pull the primary again and put a new primary back on and waste the money again.  I also put a picture of the secondary because there is a little scuffing on the secondary from what I assume is the belt not moving.  Not sure if that has something to do it. 
#9
General Discussion / Re: Primary Clutch Problems
August 04, 2022, 10:31:11 AM
I do notice that the thrust plate from the replacement clutch is way thinner metal than the thrust plate from the original clutch
#10
General Discussion / Re: Primary Clutch Problems
August 04, 2022, 10:30:01 AM
I did not use a torque meter but I honestly don't think they were tightened incorrectly.  I am just having a hard time rebuying that clutch and reinstalling a new belt with the idea it was because the nut and bolt were not measured for torque.  They were tight and secure but not measured. 
#11
General Discussion / Re: Primary Clutch Problems
August 03, 2022, 09:35:53 AM
I am not sure if this matters but I bought the whole new clutch.  I did take it apart but made sure to put it back together exactly the way it was supposed to.  I made sure the bearing was going the correct direction and all parts were exactly put together correctly.  The clutch was put in the same way the factory did I believe.  The nut was torqued down so I don't really know how it did the damage it did.  I have no problem replacing it but I just replaced everything you said to and the outcome after a one minute drive was the pictures above.  Other than getting the exact torque of the nut on the plate is there anything else that could have happened?  Because all parts were new.  Thanks in advance and thank you for the reply

Quote from: NMKawierider on August 02, 2022, 06:22:12 PM
Well, the ramp plate and the bore washer are gone...as in destroyed..probably because of the nut not being torqued properly. The one-way or overriding clutch clearly was not allowing the belt to rest on it is it either is damaged, put in backwards or moveable part of the clutch was not rotating because of the stripped ramp plate. Very likely....and the back sheave doesn't look so hot either. And I'm sure the hex shaft is also damaged as well. In any case, all that needs replaced now as well as the belt because it is now also toast. I suggest getting a complete new clutch and belt and installing it correctly. If you don't have a service manual...get one.
#12
General Discussion / Primary Clutch Problems
August 02, 2022, 04:48:58 PM
Hello.  Sorry in advance for the lengthy problem but think the details might help.  Was using my 2019 Cfmoto 600 to grade my mom's driveway and after the second pass the clutch seem to go out.  Could hear rattling and was impossible to shift.  I was leaving for a couple weeks so loaded it up and took it to the dealer I bought it from to get repaired.  After about 3 weeks of trying to get someone to look at it I finally went and picked it up. 

I got online and searched for the primary clutch since the entire inner part with the sliding weights was full of gun and the plastic was wore out.  The belt looked fine so didn't order it.  There wasn't scarring on the secondary so I left it - although there was a little black on it.  I tried to order the original part number - OEM – 0GS0-051000-00011 but it wasn't available and it said it wasn't going to be available for up to 6 months.  I use mine daily so called the company (CFMOTOusaparts.com) and they said to use the following 0GS0-051000-00030.

I ordered it.  Took the primary off and put the new one on.  Put the belt back on.  All were put on correctly.

Immediately when I started it up I noticed the rattling sound that started right when it broke down was back.  Could here it was the weights in it moving around.  Did some research and it seemed like people were saying it was pretty common with different clutches.  Everything seemed relative fine other than the rattle at idle that went away above 2000 rpm. 

Took it for a short right around my property and got back and it wouldn't stop I noticed and wouldn't shit again.  I took the cover off and say that the thrust collar on top of the clutch along with the washer was stripped out.  The one bearing also looks to be worn from the 2 min drive.  Am attaching some pictures below if anyone could help it would be much appreciated.