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Offline Buschur

New member with questions-800sxs and ATV
« on: September 21, 2021, 01:40:14 PM »
Hello,

I've got a 2020 Z Force 800 SXS.  I've owned Artic Cats, Can Ams and spent quite a bit of time in a Polaris RZR 800.  I'm happily surprised with this CF Moto, I bought their 800 2-up ATV first and liked it enough to buy the side by side.....and sold my Can Am's.  lol

Couple questions.  The ATV clutch acts much differently than the SXS.  The ATV if you stop at the top of a hill and simply let off the brake without touching the throttle the  machine will cost down like it's in neutral, as soon as you blip the throttle the clutch will engage and engine brake.  It's an AWESOME set up.  The SXS doesn't do that.  Anyone have any idea why and if it's possible to make the SXS clutch act the same?

Next question, first the speedo in the SXS is off by quite a bit, about 11%.  Speedo shows for example 55/56 mph and GPS shows 49 mph.  Stock the machine would hit 73 mph or about 64 on GPS.  I needed more ground clearance for where I ride and figured a tire swap would fix the speedo, correct on both.  I added 29" tires and the speedo is dead on now.  Now, of course I've lost quite a bit of power from the tires and weight of them.  I ordered the 24g Dr sliders and wanna know about clocking the spring, is there any position that will gain low end and not drop the top speed?

Thank you all!

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: New member with questions-800sxs and ATV
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2021, 06:32:06 PM »
Hello,

I've got a 2020 Z Force 800 SXS.  I've owned Artic Cats, Can Ams and spent quite a bit of time in a Polaris RZR 800.  I'm happily surprised with this CF Moto, I bought their 800 2-up ATV first and liked it enough to buy the side by side.....and sold my Can Am's.  lol

Couple questions.  The ATV clutch acts much differently than the SXS.  The ATV if you stop at the top of a hill and simply let off the brake without touching the throttle the  machine will cost down like it's in neutral, as soon as you blip the throttle the clutch will engage and engine brake.  It's an AWESOME set up.  The SXS doesn't do that.  Anyone have any idea why and if it's possible to make the SXS clutch act the same?

Next question, first the speedo in the SXS is off by quite a bit, about 11%.  Speedo shows for example 55/56 mph and GPS shows 49 mph.  Stock the machine would hit 73 mph or about 64 on GPS.  I needed more ground clearance for where I ride and figured a tire swap would fix the speedo, correct on both.  I added 29" tires and the speedo is dead on now.  Now, of course I've lost quite a bit of power from the tires and weight of them.  I ordered the 24g Dr sliders and wanna know about clocking the spring, is there any position that will gain low end and not drop the top speed?

Thank you all!
What year is the CForce 800. In short..both have one-way sprags for engine braking. Both should work almost the same however the Xc doesn't use a wet clutch as the ZForce 800 does and it's sprag is between the two primary sheaves so the belt will ride on it. The previous CForce 800s(Pre 2018) also had wet clutches like the ZForce. If yours isn't working, it's probably one of the thousands that had problems and needs replaced.
With 29" tire over the OE 26" you better go to B2. You shouldn't loose any top end but if you do, just put the 25gram sliders in or drop down to C1...see al long as the clutches achieve full shift-out before reaching the RPM limiter, you shouldn't loose any top end. B2 will be withing 500-700 RPMs of the limiter.   
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Offline Buschur

Re: New member with questions-800sxs and ATV
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2021, 12:39:46 PM »
Thanks for the response NMKawierider.  Both macines are 2020's.  If the CForce 800's clutch is messed up, I'd like to copy it into the ZForce!  The ability to cost down hill not on the engine brake is great. 

I'll give your adjustments to the clutches a shot in the ZForce.  Thank you.