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Offline NMKawierider

Air Filters used on CFMoto Machines
« on: November 30, 2017, 05:38:43 PM »
All CFM 800s 2014 to 2022, 2018-2022+ 400s, 450s, 500s & 600s. This includes all C Forces, Z Forces, U Forces & the XCs.This is are the UniFilter air filter we recommend for the units listed above.

UP-6229-ST  OR  NU-8703-ST(does not fit the new 2023s) (Fits all others with 2.25" inlets)
SPECIAL NOTE: The pipe adapter has a lip or flange on the filter side that may either needs to be flipped around or removed to work with the Unifilter.
We do not recommend ANY of the CFM, TwinAir or the K&N Air Filters any longer for any machine. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
 C Force, Z Force(2018 & 19) & U Force 1000s    The CFM 1000s have a 2.5" intake. These Unifilters are recommended.
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NU-8709-ST  This one IS listed by UniFilter as the correct one for the 1000 engines with 2.50" Inlets.
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UP-6245-ST  This one has the internal flange that may require the tube flipped or lip removed.
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NU-8503-ST is being used by several on FB and here. It is said to fit perfectly and is slightly larger then the ones above however does nor use a clamp which you must add for this application.
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2020+ Z Force 950 Sport----
OEM Filter part # - 0JYA-112000-30000Carquest is # 83295 Wix would be 49295
Napa is 9295.
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No Uni filter available at time of this posting (11/3/20) but I suspect because of they style of filter it requires the NE-8503-st might work

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Offline glenlivet

Re: Air Filters used on CFM 800s and some others.
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2017, 01:01:22 AM »
Good topic. Just to see for myself I bought one each of the Twin Air, Uni, and an Outerwears. I made an admittedly unscientific examination of the two filter elements and I'll tell you what I found:

First I'll admit a personal bias toward the Twin Air, based on my satisfaction with one of them on my King Quad, a quad known at the beginning of their present model run for having an unsatisfactory factory air cleaner element. (sound familiar?)
Pics are in the following posts. Couldn't get all to load.

To the filters. Here they are brand new.

A filter that gets dirty like this had better be extraordinary.

I hold the filter elements to the light in turn (dry), and shoot a cell phone cam pic through the inlet hole. The first pic through the Uni is just black. Same as what I see. Nothing. No point wasting bandwidth on the pic, just imagine black. :)
Second is the inside of the Uni using the flash. This shows the form spring and the colour of the inside.
Now the Twin Air, without the flash. Don't need flash, enough light comes in for a good photo without flash. A lot of light is coming through the end of this filter, right through the foam but to my astonishment what the photo does not capture here is that the end cap is admitting pinpricks of unimpeded light! Dozens of tiny 'stars' of raw light are visible right through the foam. This is no exaggeration. The foam on the sides does it too, admits pinpricks of unimpeded light.
The resolution of the pic does not permit showing this and each tiny light source is lost in a pixel, but they were easy to see.

Does this rather crude review using un-oiled filter elements prove anything? Not really, I'm sure because a proper test would involve making the respective filter elements do what they are intended to do, in the condition they were intended to be, properly oiled and mounted on a test bed, flowing air and being measured for flow and actual filtering performance when exposed to equal parts contaminants.

But for a seat of the pants comparison there simply IS no comparison. The filter foam elements of the UNI are separate, one gloved over the other. The two together are at least 5/8" thick. The Twin Air are bonded together and total maybe 3/8", and that's being generous. The Uni feels sturdy and solid. The Twin Air feels flimsy and looks shabby with glue lines all over and an irregular shape. While I don't know if the Twin Air with no internal cage would actually collapse if badly dust coated and intake negative pressure was high, you don't have to wonder with the Uni, it has a spring inside to keep its shape regardless.
And those pinpricks of raw light. I still shake my head.

The Outerwears looks well made. I can't notice it at all with me breathing through just a small part of it, and there's lots of it. Enough people have stated that most times all they need to do is clean off the Outerwears and the rest of the filter looks good, that I believe them.
And it fits so nicely right over top the Uni.  8)

Call me converted. I once assumed the Uni was a cheaper alternate to a good Twin Air (see, I never mentioned that it's cheaper to buy too. I always figured the air cleaner isn't where I want to economize), now I'm not so sure. I mean even the hose clamp on the Uni looks more rugged than the one on the Twin Air!

That's it. I'm not drinking the Twin Air Kool-Aid anymore.  ;D
« Last Edit: December 02, 2017, 01:20:33 AM by glenlivet »
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Offline glenlivet

Re: Air Filters used on CFM 800s and some others.
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2017, 01:02:48 AM »
Pics 1 and 2
For a nation to believe it can tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and believing he can raise himself by pulling on the handle - Winston Churchill

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Offline glenlivet

Re: Air Filters used on CFM 800s and some others.
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2017, 01:06:28 AM »
Pics 3, 4
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Offline Dutchtrekker

Re: Air Filters used on CFM 800s and some others.
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2017, 04:24:12 AM »
The last 15 years I always use the K&N filters; for oil and for air. Never had a problem with them. Yes, I know the issues with some filters........but.......mostly it is a maintenance and preparation problem. ( in my humble opinion )
If you drive in Sand for a week and never check the filter, well.................

On my U800 there is a K&N filter on the air intake now; no problems.
Gr. Cees.

CFM U800 with 4406 km.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Air Filters used on CFM 800s and some others.
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2017, 10:37:45 AM »
The last 15 years I always use the K&N filters; for oil and for air. Never had a problem with them. Yes, I know the issues with some filters........but.......mostly it is a maintenance and preparation problem. ( in my humble opinion )
If you drive in Sand for a week and never check the filter, well.................

On my U800 there is a K&N filter on the air intake now; no problems.

Usually K&Ns are an OK choice but in extreme conditions they can be a problem when they are not sized right. We here are haunted by these images of one that wasn't cleaned soon enough to stop the pulsing which fatigued the screening into splitting. This destroyed his engine..of course.

http://cfmoto-forum.com/800ex800/warning-about-kn-air-filters/

And as a side note on the TwinAirs, I have always trusted them and..a few people in positions to know told us that they were the better of the two because of their finer pour structure..ie more PPIs then Unifilter. However...I did discover something I wasn't real comfortable with in my setup. As a rule I always clean and apply some filter oil on the intake track just after the filter on the air's way in so I can swab it during servicing just to ensure all is well. Twice now I have swabbed the intake track just after the TwinAir which is my first one in the stack...and have found minute trace dust particles. This does not make me happy. I checked every possible connection for a bypass leak with no discoveries so it has to be coming through the filter. By the same token, I have an oversized Unifilter in the box..which I have yet to find any trace of dust getting past it..but of course not much gets to it anyway so that's not a real test. But it is much thicker like Glenlivet pointed out even though the TwinAir is supposed to have three layers-White, Orange and black, its still less then half as thick as any Unifilter.. especially the one I am using in the box.

In the end I believe either is a better filter then the OE CFM filter and baring any extra evidence it is my opinion that the Unifilter with a prefilter may well be the better choice between these two foam filters. As far as the K&N, I found it impossible to stop it's oil from coating the mass airflow sensors in any vehicle I used them in so I just quit using them. At least with the foam filters and supper-tacky oils with the excess removed I can keep it off the sensors much longer.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Air Filters used on CFMoto machines
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2018, 01:17:53 PM »
A quick vid only about the TwinAir and Unifilters. This is why we do not recommend the TwinAir any longer


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Offline slamyu

Re: Air Filters used on CFMoto machines
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2018, 11:53:33 PM »
Thanks for posting this information NMKawierider!! I went with the angled UNI filter in the main filter box based on your recommendations and I did a snorkel set up with a Donaldson FPG with cyclonic pre-filter (G057512) similar to your canister. Donaldson claims 85% of contaminants are separated (by the cyclonic action) and discharged prior to hitting the primary pleated filter. It also has a secondary safety filter that prevents dirt from entering the intake when you change the primary in the field. This should allow me to easily clean or replace the primary filter, while out running the machine, in any conditions (pop 2 latches and the primary is out in less than 10 seconds...no tools required)!! They recommend replacing the safety filter after 3 primary changes(which would be done at home after cleaning the inside of the canister of leftover gunk from the primary). There is a rubber valve that you squeeze to empty the dirt out of the pre-filter periodically(if anything bigger than fine dust gets into the snorkel intake). You might consider trying a Donaldson canister if you want something that you can "field service" easily to keep the fun going in either extremely dusty conditions or extended riding(we plan to take ours camping at various locations so I wanted something that I could service quickly and easily) Thanks again for all your helpful and informative posts!! :D
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Air Filters used on CFMoto machines
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2018, 12:39:41 AM »
Thanks. I considered a Donaldson a while back, a great product, just didn't have room for it and my box in back. For now the uni in the stack and the one in the box are working out OK...just have to keep an extra in with me.
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Offline Stupidbash

Re: Air Filters used on CFMoto Machines
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2018, 11:03:36 AM »
So I have a Zforce 1000 and bought the UNI 2 stage angled. What a pain in the ass to get it to stay on. I had to take the existing rubber sleeve from the paper filter and work it into the UNI filter. Hopefully it’s in right enough and doesn’t fall off.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Air Filters used on CFMoto Machines
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2018, 04:44:05 PM »
So I have a Zforce 1000 and bought the UNI 2 stage angled. What a pain in the ass to get it to stay on. I had to take the existing rubber sleeve from the paper filter and work it into the UNI filter. Hopefully it’s in right enough and doesn’t fall off.
All you have to do is either flip the tube adapter around so the lip is on the box-side or file the lip off. I took the lip off. Don't take any chances with sealing or possibility rough trails will bounce it off...
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Offline Chris1212

Re: Air Filters used on CFMoto Machines
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2020, 02:38:42 PM »
Hey guys, sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but I thought I read somewhere the UNI filter isn't as good as originally thought.

What is the current recommended air filter I should put on my 2018 Zforce 1000?

Thanks

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Air Filters used on CFMoto Machines
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2020, 02:43:47 PM »
Hey guys, sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but I thought I read somewhere the UNI filter isn't as good as originally thought.

What is the current recommended air filter I should put on my 2018 Zforce 1000?

Thanks
The OEM filter nor the TwinAir is NOT GOOD on any CFM machines. After testing many aftermarket filters we all and settled on UniFilter as the best all around filter for all off-road application, especially the CFMotos. The ones recommended for the 1000s are listed in the first post. Be sure to also get a quality foam filter oil and cleaner. We recommend Maxima FAB-1 oil and it's cleaner.
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Offline Hunttux

Re: Air Filters used on CFMoto Machines
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2020, 08:46:54 AM »
there seem to be a million outerwears sizes/options on amazon.ca  anyone know which is the correct one for the 6229ST?  looking for a canadian shipper.
many thanks

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Air Filters used on CFMoto Machines
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2020, 10:02:58 AM »
there seem to be a million outerwears sizes/options on amazon.ca  anyone know which is the correct one for the 6229ST?  looking for a canadian shipper.
many thanks
Although it seems to be the thing to do...and a lot of people do it, we are finding that its not so great of an idea to put..at least a snug-fitting outerwears prefilter over a foam filter. The filter oil wicks into the prefilter making it capture all..or most of the dust, blocking airflow prematurely. Also tests show on those that fit the filter snugly even clean there is a percentage of air restriction at higher RPMs through the prefilter. So if you feel you must, then get one with the correct neck size for the filter or one size larger as they do fit tight, then the body much larger then the filter so it's in like a loose bag and the surface ares is greatly extended. This will also limit the contact area with the filter.   
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