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CForce 800, X8 / Re: Can't bleed brakes
« on: May 03, 2017, 11:20:39 PM »
I have a tilt trailer and cannot even hold the quad on the trailer while it's tilted with the brakes. Use low gear on the steep stuff and let the engine braking control you. One really big positive is the low gear is the perfect speed to descend, even the reverse gear is a nice controlled speed.

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CForce 800, X8 / Re: Oxygen sensor high circuit voltage error code
« on: May 03, 2017, 11:17:40 PM »
Hopefully it's just a bad connection. I would remove the connector, apply dielectric grease and reinstall the connector.

It isn't great to run it with a bad O2 sensor, the O2 sensor measures the oxygen levels in the exhaust and adjusts the fuel ratio accordingly. If this sensor isn't providing accurate data you are likely going to run too rich or lean. It isn't the end of the world if you have to run it a little bit, but I wouldn't run it for a long period of time until you get it fixed.

Hopefully it's still under warranty as it looks like in the US the O2 sensor is $180.

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CForce 800, X8 / Re: Rival Skidplates
« on: April 19, 2017, 10:49:47 PM »
I confirmed with Rival that it is due to the aluminum a-arms. They are getting proper arm protectors and should be here mid-June. Customer service was very good and offered to refund me part of the purchase and allow me to keep the a-arm protectors or wait for the correct ones. I opted to wait for the new ones as it is a much better quality than the think protectors that come stock.

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CForce 800, X8 / Rival Skidplates
« on: April 13, 2017, 11:20:17 PM »
Has anyone else installed Rival skid plates in the US? I can't get the a-arms protectors to line up and suspect it could be the aluminum a-arms that come standard in the US.

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CForce 800, X8 / Re: Cforce 800 lift kit
« on: April 08, 2017, 02:34:46 AM »
I believe the a-arms are aluminum standard in the US and steel everywhere else.

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CForce 800, X8 / Re: Relocated My Radiator
« on: February 21, 2017, 11:17:19 PM »
I just tried something new on the original post. Let me know if those images load if not I'll upload them to a different spot.

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CForce 800, X8 / Re: Relocated My Radiator
« on: February 19, 2017, 10:58:51 PM »
Here's a shot from the seat:


And here's a shot from behind the wheeler to get another perspective:


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CForce 800, X8 / Re: Relocated My Radiator
« on: February 16, 2017, 11:29:31 PM »
It normally retails for $220 got it for $176 during a promotion weekend the company was running. It shipped from NJ very fast and I expect you'd get it fast in PA as well. As far as view it doesn't obstruct at all, I'm 6'4" and I look right over it. That back part of the rack that comes up a bit in front of the dash is about 4" lower than the top of the radiator, overall I'd say it sticks up around 7-8". I'll take a picture from eye level on the seat tomorrow and post it.

The install was easy however was a bit time consuming about 5 hours. I do have two great excuses though, it's winter and too cold to use my workshop so I used my garage attached to my house, therefore I didn't have my compressor and did everything with hand tools. I also spent about 2 hours of that time cleaning my radiator in my bathtub with "Viper" coil cleaner (which isn't as strong but is safe to use inside) and simple green.

Please be kind I'm writing this from memory, some of the bolt sizes may be off slightly but are included to give you a general idea of which size nut to look for. But below is roughly the steps to install:

Removal:
1) Open radiaotr cap and drain radiator, then replace bolt (1 8mm bolt on bottom of water pump, "drain" is printed on the pump can access bolt from under left foot hold)
2) Remove both headlight covers underneath (3 10mm bolts each)
3) Remove front plastics (from memory two electrical connectors for headlights, 5 phillips screws, 4 plastic rivets and 4 10mm bolts, two bolts are hidden under the black wheel well extenders, these pull up after removing a plastic rivet)
4) Remove lower front plastic (4 10mm bolts)
5) Remove winch fairlead (2 12mm bolts)
6) Remove front skid plate (2 8mm bolts)
7) Remove winch (can leave wired and just drop it down on frame (4 12mm bolts, pull the bolts on the winch mount not the ones that mount the winch to the winch mount.
8) Remove radiator overflow reservoir on right side (1 10mm bolt)
9) Disconnect Fan remove fan from radiator (4 10mm bolts) (it may be possible to keep connected.
10) Remove radiator hoses (3 phillips radiator clamps)
11) Remove plastic from between radiator and oil cooler (2 phillips screws)
12) Remove oil line clamp from radiator (1 10mm bolt)
13) Remove oil cooler from radiator (4 10mm bolts)
14) Remove top plastic cover and elastic piece (no tools)
15) Remove wire from thermostat on radiator
16) Remove reservoir and tube (2 10mm bolts)
15) Remove bolts from top of radiator (2 10 mm)
16) Remove radiator from the right side of machine.
17) Remove fan from right side of machine.
18) Remove radiator fill spout (2 10mm bolts)

Install:
1) Install oil cooler mount (2 16mm bolts, nuts and washers)
2) Install oil cooler (4 12mm bolts, nuts and washers)
3) Secure oil line to side of oil cooler mount with 12mm bolt nut and washer
4) Install winch
5) Install front skid plate and fairlead
6) Install radiator relocate brackets to top rack (1 16mm and 1 12mm bolt per bracket)
7) Install back plate on radiator relocate bracket (6 hex bolts and nuts, no washers)
8) Install small hose from radiator fill spout to top of radiator (~4" long, 1 pinch ring)
9) Install radiator to relocate kit (2 long hex bolts with spacers, washers and nuts)
10) Install radiator relocate kit to brackets on the front (2 16mm nuts bolts and washers)
11) Use a piece of rope or strap to temporarily hold the radiator relocate top from winging too far forward
12) Connect "L" tube to lower part of radiator (1 radiator clamp phiilips)
13) Connect "L" tube to supplied hose, cut hose to length and attach to lower radiator hose
14) Connect remaining tube to top of radiator, cut to length and attach to upper radiator hose
15) Trim radiator fill tube and attach fill tube to radiator relocate kit (2 10mm bolts ** Note you will need to supply nuts and use bolts that were previously used to mount radiator top to machine **)
16) Attach small radiator tube to fill tube
17) Attach included small tube to radiator fill and resevoir
18) Install reservoir to previous location
19) Install fan to radiator
20) The thermostat wire will be too short, you will need to splice approx. 8" of extra wire.
21) The fan motor wire will reach, you'll need to cut the ziptie and route the wire under the fuses directly to the connector.

Fill it up (radiator should still be in the upright position). Below is how I did it, however the "right" way is to crack the bleeders on each cylinder
1) Fill radiator to about 1/4" below the top
2) Open the garage door so you don't die
3) Leave the radiator cap off and start the motor
4) Let the motor get warm enough to open the thermostats
5) As air is purged from the system continue to add more antifreeze
6) You can tell if air is still in your system two ways, the fluid will "surge" up and down and the temperature gauge on the dash will go up to around 4 or 5 bars. You may have to shut the motor off and let it cool down if the temp get's too high.
7) You'll suddenly notice the temp on the dash goes down instantly and the fluid stops surging, this this point the air has all worked itself out
8) Turn the motor off
9) Top off radiator and fill reservoir to low mark
10) Install radiator cap
11) Start motor and let it get warm, make sure your fan comes on and is able to quickly cool the system off and the fan shuts off

Wrap it up
1) Lower the radiator slowly and push hoses and wires down carefully
2) Move the overflow hose into a good position
3) Install 4 bolts on radiator relocate kit with the clamps provided (I had to flex the sides out a bit for the holes to match up
4) Check for leaks and tighten any radiator clamps as necessary
5) Post pictures on cfmoto-forum.com of your new bad ass radiator relocate kit

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CForce 800, X8 / Re: Relocated My Radiator
« on: February 15, 2017, 11:10:27 PM »
NMK pretty much summed it up. I had two rides that I was broke down on because my radiator was full of mud. I had a really hard time cleaning this radiator out, it's was hard to get to and the oil cooler pinned a lot of mud between it and the radiator. Also the radiator fins are really dense on this radiator (better for cooling, harder for cleaning) which makes it incredible difficult to clean.

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CForce 800, X8 / Relocated My Radiator
« on: February 14, 2017, 10:18:19 PM »
I finally relocated my radiator. I'm very pleased with the result and the quality of the kit.


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CForce 800, X8 / Re: CForce 800 / X8 Service/Shop Manual
« on: February 14, 2017, 10:13:52 PM »
That's likely a 2013 then. The model year is often ahead of the manufacture year.

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CForce 800, X8 / Re: CForce 800 / X8 Service/Shop Manual
« on: February 13, 2017, 05:58:25 PM »
Is this a Manual for a 2012 CFMoto CF800 X8 2up?

This should be the manual for your bike. However I think you have the wrong year, in the US they didn't start making the X8/Cforce until 2013. Are you sure it isn't a 2013? Also X8 and Cforce are synonymous and they are all 2-up and 800cc. The only differences I could find between the years are:

2013 no EPS option (I believe upgraded Elka Suspension).
2014 no stock EPS, but EPS available as an upgrade. Upgraded Elka Suspension.
2015 stock EPS, no upgraded Elka suspension, got rid of the right hand brake. (The right hand brake may have been 2016 and not 2015)
2016 not sure if anything changed.

Also I believe in the US all years have upgraded aluminum A-Arms with metal protectors for the a-arms and the front skid plate. The big body skid plate is plastic though. Someone please feel free to make any corrections here.

In short what I'm trying to say is this manual should cover anything you are trying to do.

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CForce 800, X8 / Re: Squeaking Brakes
« on: January 30, 2017, 11:52:52 AM »
The C-Force have a driveshaft brake in the back and there isn't an adjustment. The entire brake system is 3 calipers/rotors. I haven't had an issue with squeaking, however my brake performance is awful.

On the newer cforce they removed one of the brake handles so you only have a right brake handle and a right foot pedal. I believe the handle and pedal activate all 3 calipers (2 front, 1 rear).

I would try giving CFMoto a call and see if they dealer should fix it, maybe your dealer is being lazy. My dealer has made two warranty repairs to my brakes (stuck calipers) maybe that is what's wrong with yours as well.

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CForce 800, X8 / Re: Buy a X8 or not?
« on: January 09, 2017, 09:30:18 PM »
To be honest I am happy with my purchase. However my wife has a 09 Suzuki King Quad and her's is more reliable than my 2014 X8. If you don't need the 2-up I would go with another King Quad all the way, they are a little cheaper too and more reliable.

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Introduce Yourself and Your Ride / Re: Cforce 800 aka x8 terralander
« on: December 19, 2016, 09:36:22 AM »
Welcome to the forums. You'll have to let us know how the upgrades go.

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