Took the time this afternoon to go threw the zforce today and decided to eliminate the snap-pins with a product I found at fastinal I believe they sell them in every size screw like 6,8,10 -33 I bought 1/4 20 for mine cause I carry a wide length for my job lol. I swapped them for all the places you have to access regularly cause the worst part of working on these was these pins in my opinion. I uploaded some pics they pretty much just mushroom out into the plastic once you tightin them up and when you go to remove them just need a Phillips 👍

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The OD is 8mm or close to? Post a link. I think this would work well for alot of my machines.

[2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS]

Got any pics with the screws installed?

Yeah I'll upload some in a few

Here is one it's dark out sorry

I looked, but can't find them on the site.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NUFMIIO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497779200&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=jack+nut&dpPl=1&dpID=41LVqaAs2RL&ref=plSrch

https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/0162809?term=Jack+nuts

Here is the tool to set them it's not required to use them but it is easier and faster I have found if you hold the head of them with pliers then drive the screw with a impact driver or drill it works just fine aswell.

Thanks, just added to the list.

I have used these in the past. I am sticking with the clips.I recently retired from the body/paint trade after 25 years. I didn't know what to do with the speciality tools that i have collected over the years, at least i can use my clip tool. seriously, i would hope if a body part got hung up on an obsticle the clip would fail and lessen of maybe not even damage the part. If it is securely fastened i would think the part could be destroyed or severely damaged.

I have used these in the past. I am sticking with the clips.I recently retired from the body/paint trade after 25 years. I didn't know what to do with the speciality tools that i have collected over the years, at least i can use my clip tool. seriously, i would hope if a body part got hung up on an obsticle the clip would fail and lessen of maybe not even damage the part. If it is securely fastened i would think the part could be destroyed or severely damaged.

I like the stock pins for the fenders, I have already ripped 3 of them off in the woods and they had simply pulled the pins through, I pop out the pins, reset the fender and put the pins back in and it's as good as new. These would be ok for the interior panels that don't get abused like that though.  I really don't have an issue with them though I seem to be able to pop them out easily and the pop in very fast.

I am with the last 2 guys.  I have more than once tore a exterior panel off and all I had to do was pop it back on because the plastic pin failed.  With these things you would tear up a few hundred dollars really quick instead of a few pennies worth of a fastener.