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Offline chuddly

Keeping heat out of the cabin
« on: June 04, 2016, 04:34:54 PM »
I know in the winter everyone tried to get the heat in there LOL.  But in the summer months you want the cab as cool as possible.  I have done this on previous UTV's and it works well to keep the heat out.  I had some titanium exhaust wrap sitting around my garage from the last project so I figured I would put it to good use and wrap the Zforce also.  I only wrapped the front cylinder because that is the only one that can put heat in the cabin.  I started by pulling the heat shield that bolts on to the header pipe  that is closest to the cylinder.  After that I soaked the exhaust wrap in water (makes it more flexible and easier to work with) and started wrapping around the pipe starting on the downstream side.  Make sure you pull the exhaust wrap good and tight so it wont slide on the exhaust and bunch up.  I do about a 1/2" overlap on mine as I go around.  The wrap comes with metal zip ties and once you get one time around you should put one at the beginning and then one at the end when you finish wrapping it.  I made sure to skip around the heat shield mounts so i could put the factory one back on as well (the more heat shielding the better).  I already had all my plastics out so it only took me about 15-20 min and its a pretty cheap mod that will keep you cab cooler (the header wrap is just over $20).  All in all its something the factory should do but oh well.  At least its easy and the returns are GREAT.  Here is a link to the exhaust wrap I used and  some pictures of it before and after.  I also want to add that you should wear gloves while doing this because its fiberglass and metal slivers and you will itch like no other if you dont LOL.
http://www.amazon.com/LEDAUT-Titanium-Motorcycle-Fiberglass-Stainless/dp/B011B99B0I?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00


I can imagine a world completely at peace.  A world where there are no weapons, no war, and no violence at all.  And I can imagine us taking over that world because they would never expect it.

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Offline Bobbed06

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2016, 12:57:09 AM »
Looks great!

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Offline chuddly

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2016, 07:46:07 AM »
I made a crappy little video of this that I may or may not post but after running the bike for ~3 min and the temp gauge being on the 2nd or 3rd bar i was still able to put my hand on the exhaust pipe right by the cylinder and not burn myself.  It was warm but not uncomfortable.  At the same time I COULD NOT put my hand on the exhaust all the way at the back by the muffler with out it burning me so it is for sure insulating a lot of the heat from getting out of the exhaust.  This should also help with melting vent tubes if anyone is having troubles with that.
I can imagine a world completely at peace.  A world where there are no weapons, no war, and no violence at all.  And I can imagine us taking over that world because they would never expect it.

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Offline Bobbed06

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2016, 11:48:00 AM »
I was thinking that the wrap should be done on all of the header components. Less heat in engine area is always a good thing. Clutch will run cooler,belt,intake components, even the engine will run a few degrees cooler just from not being in a whirl wind of hotter air. I do wonder how the header will hold up, as on some brands of exhausts wrapped (on custom Harleys) cracking at welds and or fatigue cracks did seem to occur more frequently on wrapped pipes vs non wrapped.

Jet Hot coatings seem to be a great alternative, as I think they even do the inside of pipe of requested. Just thinking out loud. I think you are completely on the right track here. Watching your build as it progresses.

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Offline chuddly

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2016, 12:14:11 PM »
Thanks Bobbed06.  I agree there is the potential for added strain on the pipe that is wrapped but i guess only time will tell on that.  I think the main reason that Harley's see the problem though is that there is no flex joint in their exhaust where on the CF Moto there is the "ball and spring" joint that allows it to flex thus taking the strain off of the welded joints. 

Thanks for following my build also.  I cant promise I will do it all right the first time but I can promise I wont leave it stock and I will keep trying to make it better.
I can imagine a world completely at peace.  A world where there are no weapons, no war, and no violence at all.  And I can imagine us taking over that world because they would never expect it.

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Offline Bobbed06

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2016, 01:32:30 PM »
You are probably right about that.....

Ever since I been watching these Z Forces progress by the owners I have been wondering how much of the heat problems in the cabin could be remedied by just wrapping the entire header or using a Jet Hot coating inside and out. Seems to me that would be the first step in heat reduction before any other mods.

post that video!

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Offline chuddly

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2016, 02:57:58 PM »
Here is the video I was talking about.  Its nothing amazing at all.  Just showing how much of a difference a little exhaust wrap makes for those that dont know

I can imagine a world completely at peace.  A world where there are no weapons, no war, and no violence at all.  And I can imagine us taking over that world because they would never expect it.

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Offline Jogon30

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2016, 05:41:04 PM »
Here is the video I was talking about.  Its nothing amazing at all.  Just showing how much of a difference a little exhaust wrap makes for those that dont know


Just placed my order!! That heat sucks.

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Offline Jogon30

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2016, 04:30:56 PM »
Dam well I just finished wrapping up my exhaust and omg what a big difference in heat in the cab I'm not even jokeing but it dropped down dramatically I can almost touch the pipes thanks for the TIP chubby. This is a good one for sure.

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Offline chuddly

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2016, 08:34:04 AM »
No problem.  Glad I could help.  I did notice once I got all my interior pieces back in that I didnt feel ANY heat from the engine inside the cabin space this weekend and it was about 93 here.  Its amazing how much better it actually makes it. 
I can imagine a world completely at peace.  A world where there are no weapons, no war, and no violence at all.  And I can imagine us taking over that world because they would never expect it.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2016, 08:54:06 AM »
Shoot...well I never really felt any after the intake mod and sealing the grill but I'll bet if I started actually feeling around I would find what everyone else is - that there is still heat coming in from the center console area..ie the hand brake and seat belt holes...ect. Now that I have the full windshield I'll probably really notice it...and have to so this wrap...lol
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
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Offline chuddly

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2016, 09:39:35 AM »
Well you gotta keep up with the "Jones" LOL
I can imagine a world completely at peace.  A world where there are no weapons, no war, and no violence at all.  And I can imagine us taking over that world because they would never expect it.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2016, 11:15:25 AM »
Well you gotta keep up with the "Jones" LOL
Lol...yeah...
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline bbbd4u

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2019, 03:41:54 PM »
Is it possible for heat to come in down by the gas petal from the radiator also?

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Keeping heat out of the cabin
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2019, 06:05:15 PM »
Is it possible for heat to come in down by the gas petal from the radiator also?
Yes, absolutely. I have installed a deflector over mine to slow it.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

My Videos On YouTube