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Offline REDRIDER

Windshield
« on: October 18, 2017, 09:40:58 PM »
So I decided I want a front and rear shield for the winter.  There's 3 options for me,  if anyone has experience with them let me know.  Dabomb sells a flip down lexan uncoated for 220 and additional 115 with mr10 coating and it looks like a more permanent mounting situation.  There is the flip up windshield for 375 with mr10 coating which also looks more permanent mounting And has struts to hold the top up, my concern with this one is the Struts and field of view.   Then there's a vented windshield for 250 without mr10 and I think it was 350 with it but it looks like it's a strap system that's very fast to remove and install.   Is there a big difference between the coated and uncoated?  If I'm careful cleaning can I avoid scratches or will it scratch no matter what? I read one review on the dabomb and they say the hardware sucked and it didn't line up well. 

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Offline vman

Re: Windshield
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2017, 12:16:28 AM »
I have only had my SATV flip up for a few months and can't tell you how well it resists scratching, I can say that it is well engineered and the size of the 2 panels are about as close to perfect as you can get, the lower section is low enough that even if it got scratched to hell or full of mud it wouldn't matter much because for the average size person you are looking over it and not through it, being so low it does almost nothing to deflect the air up and over your head when the windshield is open, so you get hit with insects, dirt, etc, but you also get that blast of air on those hot days as if it weren't there. When the windshield is in the open position the pivot point on the upper panel is high enough that it and the struts are above my line of sight and I am 6' tall, when the window is open it is almost as if it weren't there which is what I love about this windshield, mine lives in the up position most of the time, I close it for rain or those times when a lot of crap is being tossed up in front of me. If you felt the need to remove it for races, or a particular trail that you knew had a lot of low branches I would suggest leaving the lower section and only remove the upper panel, it  attaches to the frame with 2 bolts on each side and it would probably take all of 5 minutes to remove it, if you want I can get pictures of the mounting hardware tomorrow. In the partially open position, it allows some air in, I am guessing as much or more than a full vented windshield, I hate looking through a windshield and want the option to open it immediately when I want to and close it just as fast when I need to. SATV does offer a 10% discount and free shipping.

I also installed a Pacific Eagle soft rear window with the optional roll-up feature, the clear panel is almost full width and height and has a heavy duty zipper on each side and velcro across the bottom, this allows the vinyl window to be rolled and held by straps at the top, this also allows you to trailer your machine without removing the whole thing, again I hate windows and when it is in the rolled up position it is almost non existent, but there if you need it. This is another well made product, they have added a flap that attaches to the top of the rear cabin wall with velcro so that no dust can pass under the window into the cab, the whole unit is attached to the cage with velcro, fits tight and precise, and can be easily removed if needed. I can also post a few pictures of it tomorrow if you want.

I personally like the wide open feeling, unobstructed vision, and the air flowing through the cab when you don't have windows and when I flip up the front and roll up the back that is exactly what I get.

Something else I noticed is that the noise level increases a bit when I close the front windshield and I would think that the hard rear windshield would have the same effect, I am sure someone on here with 2 fixed panels can give you a better idea about that and tell you about all of the pluses they offer.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2017, 12:22:50 AM by vman »
2012 Z6 625

Rodin doors and liners, SATV flip up windshield and Pacific Eagle soft rear, Dr. Pulley Sliders, C1 clutch, 1" wheel spacers, 2" lift, Kolpin Mirrors, custom muffler, front light bar, custom mudguards, modified rear cage, 27" Maxxis Mudder LT tires, custom seat covers, custom air intakes.

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Offline doug80638

Re: Windshield
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2017, 11:36:11 AM »
I have to agree with VMan.

I shopped around for a long time, and even considered crafting my own windscreen ($100 in parts) before deciding on what I really wanted.

I installed the SuperATV flip-up windshield a few weeks back and absolutely love it's quality and flexibility. We went trailing in the rain and the ride was much more enjoyable for me than for my brother on his CForce :-) When the rain stopped, the windshield was popped up for the rest of the ride.

It can be had for about $330 if you use the RZRFORUM discount code. The installation didn't come without issues, but SATV was very responsive and helpful. The issue was that the hardware kit did not work with the 2017's, but they've since upgraded the kit.

I also bought a TUSK soft panel for the rear. It's meant for the RZR, but it does the job and fits well enough for $40.

Good luck with whatever you choose.
2017 Zforce 800 - Red
SuperATV Flip windshield
Tusk soft rear window
Uni-Filter foam air filter
Bandit springs

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Windshield
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2017, 11:56:00 AM »
I too have the SATV flip front and their rear shield and couldn't be happier.
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage |7- 9.7" GPS Systems | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front | Cage Chop Mod

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline REDRIDER

Re: Windshield
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2017, 07:51:14 PM »
I have to agree with VMan.

I shopped around for a long time, and even considered crafting my own windscreen ($100 in parts) before deciding on what I really wanted.

I installed the SuperATV flip-up windshield a few weeks back and absolutely love it's quality and flexibility. We went trailing in the rain and the ride was much more enjoyable for me than for my brother on his CForce :-) When the rain stopped, the windshield was popped up for the rest of the ride.

It can be had for about $330 if you use the RZRFORUM discount code. The installation didn't come without issues, but SATV was very responsive and helpful. The issue was that the hardware kit did not work with the 2017's, but they've since upgraded the kit.

I also bought a TUSK soft panel for the rear. It's meant for the RZR, but it does the job and fits well enough for $40.

Good luck with whatever you choose.
You all convinced me I bought the satv flip up.  The tusk rear I would like too for under $50 which did you get?  The 800 is like 8 inches shorter than the one for a 900s what if any issues on the install?

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Offline doug80638

Re: Windshield
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2017, 09:49:37 PM »
I got the Tusk rear window for the older Polaris 800 because I thought the shape of the cage was closer to the Z8 than the 900, but the fitment charts show a wide range of vehicles including 900 models.

$37 with free shipping on ebay.

No perfect, but it fits well enough and it keeps the mud off the back of my neck ;-) 

There may be better fitting models so do your homework.

2017 Zforce 800 - Red
SuperATV Flip windshield
Tusk soft rear window
Uni-Filter foam air filter
Bandit springs

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Offline REDRIDER

Re: Windshield
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2017, 07:42:03 PM »
Hmm,  well i got it yesterday.  Installed it today.  I can't say I'm overly excited.  The bottom shield i can't get to seal to the hood well at all. Has half inch gaps at the angles.  I don't really like the latch system,  i have to hold the bottom shield in place with one hand while i push down with the other or it just flexes. The top shield while open is more obstructive in my view than i was hoping for.  I'm 6'3 probably won't affect shorter riders as much.   It won't come off all that easy for high speed trailing or summer riding.   We'll see how i like it after some trail riding but I'm thinning i may have been better off getting the strapped on full shield.  The quality seems good other than the fitment issue to the hood.  Seems like it needs to stand upright more to seal better but there isn't really any adjustment for that other than bending the brackets

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Windshield
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2017, 08:10:05 PM »
Yeah the rubber strip doesn't follow the contours very well and does leave some gaps. Haven't been an issue for me though but I think another type of seal...maybe one with a long flap would work better..at least be more adjustable. Something like this maybe..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Vertical-Shark-Fin-Car-Seal-Rubber-EDGE-TRIM-Van-Boat-Truck-Caravan/111455087859?hash=item19f33dacf3:g:woUAAOSwQItUCs-6

The latch just needs broke in. I sanded mine and lubed it at the start but found after it sat in place a while it became more operable...and now I wish I hadn't sanded it cause it almost works too easy. I also replaced the strip seal between the two with a better foam one that does a little better. Overall I like it now but it did take some getting used to with the gas cylinders and all the hardware.
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage |7- 9.7" GPS Systems | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front | Cage Chop Mod

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline vman

Re: Windshield
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2017, 10:52:40 PM »
I've been waiting for you to get it installed and post your thoughts about it and I am sorry that you are disappointed with it. I agree the rubber seal does not fit the best but it has not been an issue for me, my last one wasn't much better, I also agree that the bottom panel being more verticle would help, I thought about elongating the two holes on each lower bracket which would then allow the panel to be rotated more towards verticle, I haven't done it yet because the gaps are more annoying visually and not really function issue, pulling the rubber seal down a bit on the windshield at the corners helps some. Not sure why you feel it won't come off to easy, it is not necessary to remove the plastic mounting blocks, taking it off involves taking the bolt out at the top of the strut and the one above it at the pivot point, 2 per side total is not really a big deal if you want to take it off for the summer, but it allows so much air to pass when open why remove it. I did find it a tad bit confining when I first installed it vs. the wide open feeling with absolutely no windshield but I quickly adapted to it and don't even think about it being there now, I guess if you didn't have a roof and suddenly added one you would feel closed in and confined until you became accustomed to it, kind of the same thing, it's not a cheap add on and I hope you feel differently after using it for a while.
2012 Z6 625

Rodin doors and liners, SATV flip up windshield and Pacific Eagle soft rear, Dr. Pulley Sliders, C1 clutch, 1" wheel spacers, 2" lift, Kolpin Mirrors, custom muffler, front light bar, custom mudguards, modified rear cage, 27" Maxxis Mudder LT tires, custom seat covers, custom air intakes.

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Offline REDRIDER

Re: Windshield
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2017, 08:12:19 AM »
I hadn't really looked at what it would entail to remove the top part to be honest. I already whacked my head on the top part when I had it opened and leaned forward. I am sure I'll get used to it just my initial feeling about it wasn't the best. Again I think for a shorter rider some of my issues would be a non issue for them. The girlfriend got in and she has a much less obstructed view.

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Offline doug80638

Re: Windshield
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2017, 09:32:19 AM »

Wow! You must be pretty tall. I just tried sitting tall in my machine and can see what you mean.
I hope the convenience of the three positions outweighs this issue for you.

I would also recommend using Plexus on the (any) windshield as it helps keep dust and moisture from building up.
2017 Zforce 800 - Red
SuperATV Flip windshield
Tusk soft rear window
Uni-Filter foam air filter
Bandit springs

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Offline REDRIDER

Re: Windshield
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2017, 09:57:31 AM »


I would also recommend using Plexus on the (any) windshield as it helps keep dust and moisture from building up.
thanks for the tip

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Windshield
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2017, 10:01:25 AM »
Maybe it's opening too far. It should be just slightly past level. Check where the struts and mounted on the brackets. I can't imagine the top end being back far enough to hit my head on...but then I'm only 5'7.
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage |7- 9.7" GPS Systems | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front | Cage Chop Mod

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline REDRIDER

Re: Windshield
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2017, 01:58:19 PM »
Maybe it's opening too far. It should be just slightly past level. Check where the struts and mounted on the brackets. I can't imagine the top end being back far enough to hit my head on...but then I'm only 5'7.
I have it set in the middle, I am going to adjust it to the lowest setting my back was done after I installed it so I didn't get to that yet. but yea if I sat straight in the seat and leaned forward and to the middle a little it hits me right on top of the head.... as I found out...

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Offline REDRIDER

Re: Windshield
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2017, 06:42:27 AM »
Ok update after adjustment and a ride. I adjusted it to the lowest setting I can which does make it a decently better for my height. As for functionality I was please with how warm it kept the cab we went on a midnight run at temps of about 53'F I was wearing a sweatshirt and did not need my coat. Opened the windshield at one point because it was actually getting a little too warm and I then realized how cold it was outside and closed it in a few minutes. I will get a back shield as well as I did get a little dust and debris swirling in and getting in my eyes. So it is doing it's job, I still do not like that the bottom piece flexes so much when trying to latch the top down I am thinking about making a little support in the middle so I don't have to two hand it to close it. As others said the gaps under the shield don't seem to cause any issue other than piss me off because it doesn't look good.