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Offline RedZ1K

Re: Who here has done a RZR bracket lift on their ZForce?
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2019, 04:50:58 PM »
how was the 3"? did you have to turn your preload way down? what actual lift did you get from the 3" I had the 3" on order but scared it was too much so I ordered a 2"

I had to take all of the preload out of the rear shocks just to get them back in, but I added some back.  Drove it on a couple trips and added a bit more back, but still less than what it was at before the lift.  I never touched the front preload.  I thought about getting the 2" but decided to go with 3", that way I could lower it back down with the preload if I wanted (or even drill new holes in the brackets).  I stupidly forgot to take some measurements before doing it, but I think it's at about 14" clearance now.  No issues with it so far, it might handle just a bit different but not bad or anything.  I've put a few hundred kms on it now and am still happy with it and haven't had any issues.  The lift was for an 800 RZR, seller was SmartPartsCo. 

I ran into a guy I know last weekend while out wheeling, he has a 2016 800EX.  He says he originally did a 2" lift all around and then later added 2 more inches to the rear somehow (not sure what he did, maybe the spacers on the springs?).  Says he's never had an issue with it, and I think he runs his pretty hard. 
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Offline Almoto

Re: Who here has done a RZR bracket lift on their ZForce?
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2019, 11:19:00 AM »
nice! I ordered the 2" one I did actually order the 3" one but cancelled it right away and ordered the 2" one. I couldn't decide but I seen a lot more people running the 2"  I guess if I don't like it im out $60 and an hour or 2 of my time.
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Offline Buzzard

Re: Who here has done a RZR bracket lift on their ZForce?
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2019, 07:05:02 AM »
Been thinking about the lift kit as well, just so undecided between the 2” & 3 “   Kind of waiting to hear from y’all and see what ya think.
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chiaj144

Re: Who here has done a RZR bracket lift on their ZForce?
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2019, 01:02:04 PM »
I put the 2" on my bike and it raised it 3" or more. I took some preload out of the shocks but it wants to roll more now in the corners. I'm glad I didn't go with the 3" as I'm on the fence with the handling I have now. I'm going to put some preload back into it to see if it gets better.

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Offline Almoto

Re: Who here has done a RZR bracket lift on their ZForce?
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2019, 01:30:35 PM »
I put the 2" on my bike and it raised it 3" or more. I took some preload out of the shocks but it wants to roll more now in the corners. I'm glad I didn't go with the 3" as I'm on the fence with the handling I have now. I'm going to put some preload back into it to see if it gets better.

this is what my worry was. my lift arrived yesterday but worst case scenario it was only $60 and I can take it out pretty quick.
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Offline Buzzard

Re: Who here has done a RZR bracket lift on their ZForce?
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2019, 10:24:12 AM »
Sounding more like the 2” is going to be the ticket.
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Offline glenlivet

Re: Who here has done a RZR bracket lift on their ZForce?
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2019, 10:14:31 AM »
I have 2" bracket lift on order, intending for the rear only. That's because my Elka shocks are preloaded as far as the nut allows and my rear lower A arms are nearly level as it sits on the flat. Granted I have a fuel pack at the front of the box and about 80 pounds of recovery and emergency gear but I need more rear ground clearance and I don't want to simply add more preload the way a spring spacer lift would.

Considering Elka had a good four inches of thread to work with to establish working range, I have to think it's sloppy engineering to have their working preload so close to one end as to run out of spring adjustment range. Maybe they just adapted an existing shock body from their warehouse to fit on the CF Moto and be damned where the spring collar ends up. Regardless it's pretty sloppy and inconsiderate engineering what with the price they want for their product.

I'm sure someone will offer that I should have just gotten a stronger rear spring but that's not the problem, I supplied Elka with my weight specs when I ordered the shocks and these are the springs they chose for me.  The springs are strong enough and don't approach he limits of the shocks operating range by the evidence of the dust ring on the rams. There's no way I should run out of preload adjustment range and be at the end when there's four inches of threaded shock body above the collar, unused. I did notice at the time of install that the eye to eye length of the rear Elka shocks was about 1/4" shorter than the stock shocks.
Sloppy engineering, Elka.
I'm going to try a bracket lift and back off the preload and see if I get a good result that way. The kit was only $30.00 USD or so. Cheap enough.
I might redrill the brackets to a shorter lift too depending on the results. I don't want a bunch of lift, just get the rear end a bit further away from the rocks and get operating range back on my preload collars.
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Offline Almoto

Re: Who here has done a RZR bracket lift on their ZForce?
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2019, 10:58:18 AM »
anyone have close pictures of how they installing these lifts? I started it last night but nneded to trim part of a control arm and relocate the hand brake (neither was a huge deal) but it seamed  like the only way the brackets would work was going on the outside of the factory shock brackets and I didn't really care for how things were looking so I stopped.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Who here has done a RZR bracket lift on their ZForce?
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2019, 12:37:07 PM »
anyone have close pictures of how they installing these lifts? I started it last night but nneded to trim part of a control arm and relocate the hand brake (neither was a huge deal) but it seamed  like the only way the brackets would work was going on the outside of the factory shock brackets and I didn't really care for how things were looking so I stopped.
Just tossing-in, although some have located the rear bracket on the a-arm and adjusted for the e-brake, I though I heard that some have located their rears on the top end and that avoided some modifications. Maybe I was asleep and dreaming...maybe it wasn't a CF Moto...:)

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Offline Ponytail

Re: Who here has done a RZR bracket lift on their ZForce?
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2019, 01:41:18 PM »
Yes. Put the rear brackets on the top of the shock.

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Offline RedZ1K

Re: Who here has done a RZR bracket lift on their ZForce?
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2019, 11:35:23 AM »
Yup, I put my rear brackets up top, and drilled another hole through the bracket and factory shock mount for a bolt to keep the brackets from rotating.  I still had to trim the corner of the control arm as my shocks are a bit bigger (stock ones from a 2019 1000) and were hitting it.  I also repositioned the ebrake bracket to clear the springs. 
2018 ZForce 1000
Elka Stage 3/4 shocks
3" lift
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Light bar
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Offline Tatohead

Re: Who here has done a RZR bracket lift on their ZForce?
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2019, 05:55:20 PM »
Here is a tip for everyone that has Elka shocks and looking for a little more lift.  Like everyone else I didn't know why the rear springs were so short. I purchased some Elka Stage 1 last winter and the rear springs were just as short as the stocks.

Even Elka said that's what they are but after sending them some pics this last summer they suggested that I get some F4.9x254 figuring that I needed heavier springs to carry my load.  Even with the 275lb springs the rear end still looked flat and I only had 9 inches of ground clearance measured on the skid plate.  After hunting this fall and banging in rocks that my buddies RZR 900 cleared I said I need more clearance.

Soooo I did a little digging around Ella's website and noticed that I could buy longer springs!  So I got a set of F4.9x350 (about 3 inches longer).  Now I have 10.5 inches clearance at the back of the skid plate and 10 inches at the front and I could get more but I want to run this way a while before I push them up some more. I'm running 26" Bighorn 2.0 for a reference.

Hope this helps everyone.
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Offline Blue ZF 1000

Re: Who here has done a RZR bracket lift on their ZForce?
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2020, 01:11:11 PM »
Hello...
I am curious how the 3" lift is working out. I really need to lift my ZF 1000 before I damage something from bottoming out. I am really leaning towards the 3" lift and then adjusting the preload if necessary to reduce the angle and stress on the axles. all feedback on this would be appreciated.