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Offline John riggin

wet clutch delete update
« on: June 12, 2016, 11:24:14 AM »
, well its not good news for me , installed my new wet clutch delete , was a bit surprised first time in the mud , not enough power and belt slips in a tight spot , would not recommend it , it does give you a bit more take off , but i think the same results can be achieved with , mods to the secondary spring , ..WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TO ANYONE THAT DOES ALOT OF MUD RIDING OR HILL CLIMBING , IT ALSO TAKES AWAY THE ENGINE BRAKE ,,, NOT HAPPY ,
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Offline Derfer22

Re: wet clutch delete update
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2016, 07:49:25 AM »
, well its not good news for me , installed my new wet clutch delete , was a bit surprised first time in the mud , not enough power and belt slips in a tight spot , would not recommend it , it does give you a bit more take off , but i think the same results can be achieved with , mods to the secondary spring , ..WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TO ANYONE THAT DOES ALOT OF MUD RIDING OR HILL CLIMBING , IT ALSO TAKES AWAY THE ENGINE BRAKE ,,, NOT HAPPY ,
Thanks for the update I do both Mud and Hills and really like my engine brake..
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Offline chuddly

Re: wet clutch delete update
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2016, 07:57:53 AM »
Sorry to hear that you are not happy with it.  Historically wet clutch delete are only preferred by dunes guys. 
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Offline 4getful2

Re: wet clutch delete update
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2016, 08:24:33 AM »
I take it the front clutch didn't come with a one-way bearing?

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: wet clutch delete update
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2016, 08:27:53 AM »
I take it the front clutch didn't come with a one-way bearing?
I don't think it needs one..they are fixed to the crank after the delete..right?
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Offline John riggin

Re: wet clutch delete update
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2016, 05:58:04 PM »
I take it the front clutch didn't come with a one-way bearing?
I don't think it needs one..they are fixed to the crank after the delete..right?
will be installing my wet clutch back in the moto this weekend only bearing that was damaged was the small bearing that is on the cvt case, had to weld a nut on to the bearing to pull it out , i got replacement already , and a new crank case gasket just in case , you live you learn , it definitely did not give me the numbers that was posted , by any means , lost 4 mph , but i did gain a little on take off , nothing that could not be gotten by changing the spring settings in the secondary  UPSET to say the least
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: wet clutch delete update
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2016, 06:32:24 PM »
Is there anything you can do with weights and springs to tune it in more to your liking?
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Offline chuddly

Re: wet clutch delete update
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2016, 07:06:55 AM »
Is there anything you can do with weights and springs to tune it in more to your liking?

That may be possible but you are not going to gain to much with clutch tuning.  MAYBE you might gain 2-3 mph back that was lost or at best break even again.  Even if you do that its a lot of money to spend to just break even again on the top end, gain a little on the bottom end, and lose engine braking.  I have been in your shoes John and spent a bunch in hopes of getting more performance and when it doesnt pan out it just is like a punch in the gut.  Sorry bud.
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Offline Wheels

Re: wet clutch delete update
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2016, 07:23:30 AM »
Your gonna have to reweight the sliders in the drive clutch, I'd say by your complaint you will need to drop some weight.
The photo of the clutch in the kit looks to me as a trail bloc , that comes with a oneway bearing .
I also recommend you wind the driven up to b2 atleast.
Without dropping to many beans, I will say many people in the future will be in your position.
Once you find the clutch combo , you will be happy.
If it has Pistons or Tits you will encounter problems.

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Offline John riggin

Re: wet clutch delete update
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2016, 08:33:47 PM »
Your gonna have to reweight the sliders in the drive clutch, I'd say by your complaint you will need to drop some weight.
The photo of the clutch in the kit looks to me as a trail bloc , that comes with a oneway bearing .
I also recommend you wind the driven up to b2 atleast.
Without dropping to many beans, I will say many people in the future will be in your position.
Once you find the clutch combo , you will be happy.
my stock clutch was right on changed the weights to 22 grams. B2 setting   , I was under the impression from there add that this was an ultimate change , lots more power and all around performance.  , Bull shiz is what it was.   Has taken away from what I had  I will reinstall my stock clutch and be happy
800ex
Costume front and rear brush bars
Jensen Bluetooth marine radio.
Wet Sounds sound bar
JL AUDIO MARINE AMP
48 inch led bar
3 inch custome lift
28 big horns
EJK chip
Snorkel kit
Customized dual pipe muffler
5 point harness
Up graded blinker lights front and rear
Custom roll cage
K lifter arms