[jeg11010]

My winch cable got stuck in my KFI fairlead while plowing and sort of frayed it. I was planning on replacing it with a synthetic rope anyway.

Anyone ever used this one from Harbor Freight or should I stick with the OEM CFMoto rope that is blue. The diameters are slightly different.

https://www.harborfreight.com/atvutv-synthetic-rope-fairlead-kit-63139.html

[NMKawierider]

That one's manual says it has a max working load of 3,000lbs and a breaking limit of 4,700. This one from Amazon says it have a limit of 8,350lbs...for less money. I might be temped to do a little more shopping.

https://www.amazon.com/Ucreative-Synthetic-Winch-Rubber-Stopper/dp/B088K7X49H/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=atv%2Bwinch%2Bwith%2Bsynthetic%2Brope&qid=1677611061&sr=8-5&th=1

I didn't know roller fairleads were bad for synthetic ropes.

[jeg11010]

Yes supposedly the rope gets pinched in the rollers

[solomon]

Yes supposedly the rope gets pinched in the rollers

you should change out the roller block for a billet fairlead or equivalent
https://www.mainstreetcycle.com/shopping/item/122/cfmoto-winch-rope-fairlead

not specifically pointing to this site, it was just easy for me to link to.
sol...

[tmtex]

23 800 Trail
How good is the stock wire cable for the winch ? Reason I ask is that I used the winch to pull up the 800 onto the trailer. While it was pulling it, in the back of my mind was "oh hell this was made in china" stay away from that cable

[Ulfthednar]

The stock winch cable is safe to use.

I did however swap mine over to synth cable.

Crash course at work on its ability to stand up to punishment as well as how quick you can fix on the fly as well as properly repair the stuff.
I work at a Year round resort and we use ATVs for a good bit.

Boss found this outfit for the change overs on the ATVs at work

https://fieryred.com/

[NMKawierider]

I still have my original wire/cable on mine from 2015. Works just fine. In the spring I always run it out and re-wind it cleaning the cable with a rag as it goes back on. Don't use it much but if I did I might be tempted to change-over to synthetic.

[Ulfthednar]

Mine had a couple of kinks from when it was wound on.

I have a small tractor I plow with with a 4 way blade and have no intention of putting a plow on my 800xc.

At work though we do a lot of heavy plowing with ATVs, including a 22 800xc.

No matter how much attention we paid we were snapping the cables left and right.
The snow gets fairly heavy even here at the lower resort and you can't always tell where your blade is really riding at and it is a literal obstacle course working around the condos and parking areas.

We installed a synth kit on one of them and the down time got cut way back because the hawse and rope is more forgiving.

Then we installed the pulley set up and pretty well eliminated breakage.

I have had to repair the ropes a couple times and thats where I really got sold.

I do know how to do splicing with traditional twist ropes, but splicing the synth rope is Easy and quickly managed the second time.
The first time I had to make a fid to weave with.

The EASE of repair to like new, if shorter is just that easy.
It definitely holds up on the poor plows at work getting pounded.

the lower resort is over five acres, plus my employer owns a significant amount of other buildings and apartment complexes we plow with them as well. (Ive spent a few 12 hour days stopping only to take a leak and grab grub on the run)

We were breaking the wire cable almost daily. Just switching to the synth rope cut that way down and then installing the pulley system almost eliminated the breakage.

thats what sold me on the synthetic rope.
I've only had to unstick myself once, but I do use the winch for pulling stubborn root balls and skidding logs around with so I can get them where I can hook up without side hilling it. (working on the hillside in the video I posted a bit back)

I am however, going to install a remote lead set up . . even with my long arms I cant reach the switch and see my spool  at the same time.

[jeg11010]

For anyone interested, i ended up replacing my cable with the synthetic rope kit sold by Harbor Freight. There's a video on YouTube that shows the same thing being installed, also on a 600T.

Very easy install and came with a nice hawse fairlead. With a coupon, I paid around $30 or it. I'm sure there are better options out there but i don't use the winch all that much and wanted to get this project wrapped up quickly and not have to wait for something I order online.

[muneebjack]

Synthetic ropes are becoming increasingly popular as a replacement for traditional steel cables in winches. They offer several advantages over steel cables, including:
Lighter weight: Synthetic ropes are typically much lighter than steel cables, making them easier to handle and transport.
Increased safety: Synthetic ropes are less likely to snap under tension, reducing the risk of injury or damage to equipment in the event of a break.
Improved durability: Synthetic ropes are more resistant to corrosion, UV damage, and abrasion than steel cables, resulting in longer service life.
When selecting a synthetic rope for your winch, it's important to consider factors such as the weight capacity of your winch, the intended use of the winch, and the specific properties of the synthetic rope being considered. Some common types of synthetic ropes used in winching applications include:
Dyneema/Spectra: These ropes are made of high-strength polyethylene fibers and are known for their excellent strength-to-weight ratio and low stretch. They are often used in heavy-duty winching applications.
Nylon: Nylon ropes are durable and stretchy, making them a good choice for winching in wet or muddy conditions. They are also resistant to abrasion and UV damage.
Polypropylene: Polypropylene ropes are lightweight and affordable, but not as strong as Dyneema/Spectra or nylon ropes. They are best suited for light-duty winching applications.Recommended Tie Synthetic Winch Rope.
Overall, synthetic ropes can be an excellent replacement for steel cables in winches, providing increased safety, durability, and ease of use. However, it's important to select the right type of synthetic rope for your specific application to ensure optimal performance and safety.

[Ulfthednar]

I put my rope to a pretty serious test the other day and it performed flawlessly.
And yes get the hawse type fairlead!

I do know that the roller fairlead on the CFmoto . . one of the places they saved a few bucks.
Maybe they shouldnt have.

Found that out on the 800Xc at work.
the stock roller fairlead wouldnt have handled what I put the rope and hawse through a week or so ago.

[Ama]

Here is a better style and you can use a soft shackle also.https://yankum.com/products/sxs-groove-fairlead-hawse-fairlead?variant=41275013595342

[NMKawierider]

I've been a wire rope/steel cable guy all my life. But I'm having trouble getting my head around how much stronger synthetic rope is over wire rope. For example, I just put some 3/16" 12 braid synthetic on my crain's hand winch and it shows an average breaking load of 8200lbs where the same 3/16" rotational resistant 19x7 steel wire is only 3140lbs. Amazing. I guess the only real advantage is abrasion resistance?   

[Ulfthednar]

As long as you wipe them down you mitigate most of the abrasion factors on synth ropes.
I used mine agin a few days ago goofing off.
I ramped up over a packed snow berm and right into 4 feet of snow. when I landed I packed the snow down with the skidplate and there I sat, merrily spinning all four tires . . . .

[glenlivet]

I have never joined the rush to synthetic winch line and truthfully I haven't ever had reason to regret it. Given some of the stupid places I take my machine I use the winch quite a bit, and I can splice wire rope, handy for making extension stubs and straps. (I can assure you the first time you get stuck and need to pull yourself toward a suitable anchor with your 50' winch line, that anchor is going to be about 55' away from your stuck machine!)
I carry 10', 20', and 50' eye spliced wire rope stubs and I have needed all of them at one time or another.

I find there are plenty of advantages to wire rope including
- doesn't need a special fairlead
- is less delicate in that you can wrap it around a rock if that's all you've got or wrap another other anchor and hook it to it's own bight without fear that'll make it break
- doesn't melt or weaken from heat
- can be knotted or spliced.
- it's already on the winch!

Of course there are the frequently quoted advantages of synthetic line too. Wire rope is what I'm familiar with though, and it's always done me well.
ps. I also carry a Masdaam EZ1000 hand winch for those times when you need to roll yourself from a side and back onto your wheels. Sometimes just pulling from one end of your quad or sxs, or the other end, isn't what the situation needs.

https://usatoolsinc.com/maasdam-powr-pull-ez-winch-portable-1-2-ton-1-ton-capacity-ez2000/