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Offline Johnnyjet

Snow plow opinions.
« on: November 29, 2021, 10:00:03 PM »
Looking to get a 50 inch plow for my 600 touring.  Doing a 100 x 30 foot driveway. I’m in Long Island.  Seems like we get 4 inches or 2 feet lately. Thanks in advance

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Offline Siberian

Re: Snow plow opinions.
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2021, 11:06:52 AM »
I bought a CForce 600 Tour a few months ago.  Its Main Job is to plow 250" x 15" driveway on a hill.  If not plowed, even a 4WD truck may/may-NOT make it up the hill.  Even front 2WD has problems.  A Subaru would make it if it had good snow tires.  Other than that, forget it. 

I think a CFMoto 600 Tour is fine if you don't beat the crap out of it, maintain it, and try to keep it somewhat clean after rides.  Snow is pretty nice, sort of self-cleaning as it works.    I added self-made snowplow mount.  Photos to view:
https://cfmoto-forum.com/x6/cforce-600-tour-snowplow-fab-install/msg41786/?boardseen#new

I added the lower pulley to reduce load on the line.  My plow is 48" and I can't see it in front of me while driving.  Watch out for the winch!  It is strong enough to bend something if you pull the plow up too far. It bent my steel 1.25"x.5" front support piece on the front rack.  The rack itself did NOT bend or have any damage.  I replaced the existing front support piece with a .375 x 1.0" x 1.0" steel piece. 

I also taped a piece of a fiberglass reflective snow rod (like in parking lots, curbs, etc) so I can see what the lift height is on the plow.  All fixed.  Live and learn.

The stock tires from CFMoto worked fine in 10"-12" snow.  Use 4WD in Low Range when plowing.  Be patient, DON'T try to go fast.  You may damage the belt/clutch stuff.  Infor from other folks, YouTube, etc.

Careful using winch, do not let it "free spool" without tension on cable in either direction.  It will snarl up and be a total PITA to unwind it get it un-stuck/un-snarled.

Get a replacement air filter, ditch the OEM air filter. It was a bitch of a job to put on a new NU-8703ST air filter.  The clamps holding it in place were on the bottom, impossible to get off by un-screwing.  I had to pry everything apart to get the OEM one off.  Use Maximan FAB! Oil on it.  This is something that I have seen all over forums, replace the OEM filter, it is junk.

It is also not so easy to add connections for a battery tender, but do it if you get a CF600 Tour.  You can zip tie connections under the back plastic rack.  I added a section of orange plastic marking tape with a loop on it to fit over the gas cap.  The plastic tape goes to the wall (or anywhere it will stay).  This reminds me to Un-Plug the battery tender before driving off plowing snow.    Replace the loop on gas cap when parked in garage.  Just ask why I put this on, heh heh.

Pay attention to CFMoto "break-in procedures".  Hopefully, if done correctly, you will not have self-induced problems.

Other questions?  Just ask.   

YMMV




« Last Edit: December 01, 2021, 10:22:28 AM by Siberian »

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Offline Johnnyjet

Re: Snow plow opinions.
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2021, 09:42:42 PM »
Thanks for the info.  I want to put on the battery tender connection and add the plow.  What air filter element do you recommend. And how did you run the battery tender? 

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Offline Siberian

Re: Snow plow opinions.
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2021, 10:59:34 AM »
Thanks for the info.  I want to put on the battery tender connection and add the plow.  What air filter element do you recommend. And how did you run the battery tender?

If you look on YouTibe and search for air filter, CFMoto 600, or similar, you will find a lot of videos about maintenance and products for CFMoto.  "What About Bob" (name on YT) has reviews on his 600 Tour, rear bag (I got one just on his review), muffler tip, (Waste of $$$ JMO), and others.  OK, end of lecture.

I put a Uni-Filter NU-8703ST,  specs, 2-1/4 inlet and straight.  UP-6229-ST  OR  NU-8703-ST (Fits all with 2.25 inlets)  Use Maximan FAB! Oil on it

Cost is ~$26 +/- if you can find it.  I looked all over and it took a month to actually FIND one available.  Cost is high in my opinion, but then a new engine cost is even higher.  Every YT review I saw said the same thing - get the Uni-Filter. 

The screw clamps on my 600 were under everything, crappy job at factory.  A 20 minute job turned into a 2+ hour job to get the OEM air filter off.  I had to use a BF prybar to push everything backwards to get the @#!^^ off.

Videos here:

The battery tender has a pigtail with M/F push-in connector.  The connector goes to a short wire piece ~15" long with eyelets on it.  Screw the eyelets to appropriate =/- battery terminal.  Run the wire out back under the rear rack, zip tie it there.  Certainly not rocket science.   I think my battery tender is a $25 Wallyworld one, nothing special. 

I had pulled out of the garage a number of times pulling the battery tender off the shelf,crash to floor, etc.  So I just hang my orange plastic strap on gas cap as a reminder now.  It is similar to what aircraft do for "Pay Attention" parts.

Two of the rear grease zerk fittings are a bitch to get to.  I mean the ones on the anti-sway bar - needs long thin applicator needle or something.  Rear wheels off to get to zerks on arms. Check all of the grease fittings before going anywhere or snow-plowing.  Some folks have found them to be dry.

I am glad I got the 2021 600 Tour.  The 2022 CF500 has "almost copied" design features, lights, turning, radiator, rear LED light, and more similar to the CF600.

Look at YT every now and then if you have some question on something.  The "Muddie" folks in southeast have figured out different tire sizes, spaces if needed, clutch re-timing, and a lot of fairly technical "Cost-Is-No-Object" stuff.  I just stick with the machine the way it is and don't do Wild-Azz-Mud stuff.   Throwing away brand new wheels and tires makes no sense to me. Cost IS an object for me.

Unfortunate, many "Dealers" are really NOT "full-blown" dealers.  They are an AG store, farm equipment, some place with 1 or 2 in the back somewhere, near zero expertise on service, and so on.  Others are a dealer coupled with some very expensive MC. and charge outrageous rates for everything, many times including MSRP.  Be careful where you go. JMO

YMMV
« Last Edit: December 01, 2021, 11:03:43 AM by Siberian »

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Offline Johnnyjet

Re: Snow plow opinions.
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2021, 09:59:58 PM »
Ok I did the battery tender lead today. I ran it out the side under the rear seat. It’s wasn’t the easiest one I ever installed. Similar to my Harley. Just took a little longer to get the seat off. I’m looking at different not plows.  I don’t get as much snow as you I guess so I’m leaning towards the KFi 54 inch poly blade setup.  I read the owners manual and will follow the service schedule to the letter.  This will mostly be used for trail riding. Not much mudding if ever.

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Offline Siberian

Re: Snow plow opinions.
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2021, 10:01:38 AM »
I like to looks of your gray 600T.  They always look lighter gray in photos than they really are in person.  Whatever, I hassled with color choice Gray or Orange.  I decided since I was already going "radical", meaning Chines, 2-seater, double engine size of my old SuzKQuad, I may as well go the rest of the way and get "radical" color.  I prefer to be somewhat invisible out in the boonies as a general rule.

Since you are going trail riding and stuff, maybe you would be interested in the rear bag I have on the back. It fits fine, has a metal internal skeleton, and is reasonable cost.  I do not know if there are Sportsmans Warehouse out your way, but you could always order one.

It is: ATV-TEC ATV Expedition Cargo Bag, $120 US.
https://www.sportsmans.com/camping-gear-supplies/powersports/soft-bags/atv-tec-atv-expedition-cargo-bag/p/1368060

Go here for "What About Bob" review:

I like the little pockets on the front sides of the bag.  Very handy for a water bottle or something.  I had to use needle-nose pliers to pull some of the straps tight.  I could just get them in the loop, then pull with pliers.  The rear seat can come-off/stay-on/put-it-back with the bag installed. 

Just a suggestion.

YMMV


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Offline Johnnyjet

Re: Snow plow opinions.
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2021, 12:04:34 PM »
It’s not grey.  It’s white and it’s a 22. New color for 22.  I do like that back bag. Definitely needs something.