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Offline Karmis

Reclocking
« on: April 28, 2017, 10:49:27 AM »
I have read a lot on here about reclocking the clutch. Has anyone posted a "how to" video on YouTube? I would love to see how it is done.
2016 z800 ex eps
2013 Bently 220 pontoon
2014 Smith&Wesson .38 air weight

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Offline Cowboy

Re: Reclocking
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2017, 10:53:29 AM »
there is a video on our forum under "how to"  it will give you the info needed....At least that's the only video I needed and I had no experience with these clutches. So I'm sure it will work for you!

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Reclocking
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2017, 10:56:14 AM »
Yes..check our How To section.
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Offline Karmis

Re: Reclocking
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2017, 12:01:00 PM »
Looks very simple. The detailed video on clocking, is that an actual cf moto clutch?
What are the negatives with  over clocking? Can you go to far? Obviously you don't want to go extreme, but if b2 is good, is c1 better? Then is c2 even better?
2016 z800 ex eps
2013 Bently 220 pontoon
2014 Smith&Wesson .38 air weight

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Offline REDRIDER

Re: Reclocking
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2017, 12:21:59 PM »
it doesn't work like that, C1 is actually less extreme than B2.  There is a page somewhere which shows how many degrees each position "clocks" the spring. If you clock too much essentially you will get stuck in low range because the primary clutch wont be able to exert enough force to overcome the spring tension in the secondary, then you would have to start changing weights in the primary "less weight" to get the engine rpm up higher more in the power band to be able to create enough force to close the primary (which in turn opens the secondary).  so over clocking would result in a crazy launch and lots of power at slow speed but you wouldn't be able to go very fast top speed

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Offline Karmis

Re: Reclocking
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2017, 04:25:06 PM »
it doesn't work like that, C1 is actually less extreme than B2.  There is a page somewhere which shows how many degrees each position "clocks" the spring. If you clock too much essentially you will get stuck in low range because the primary clutch wont be able to exert enough force to overcome the spring tension in the secondary, then you would have to start changing weights in the primary "less weight" to get the engine rpm up higher more in the power band to be able to create enough force to close the primary (which in turn opens the secondary).  so over clocking would result in a crazy launch and lots of power at slow speed but you wouldn't be able to go very fast top speed

That makes perfectly good sense.
Thanks
2016 z800 ex eps
2013 Bently 220 pontoon
2014 Smith&Wesson .38 air weight

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Reclocking
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2017, 04:55:43 PM »
Just think of Clocking as preloading a spring...and that it's the primary's job to overcome that preload with RPM and it's weights. Tuning the clutches is as important as tuning the engine. You want it to run in it's power band all the way through it's range to get the best out of it as well as achieving full shift-out before it reached the RPM limiter so you will still have your best top speed as well. At some point however after adding enough load as in overall weight and rotational mass (Big Tires), you will have to give up some top end to get enough low end. And..it would appear the act of overcoming this spring preload past B2 also has an effect of engine horsepower. Ever sense I went to A2 mine although is great low end, had been struggling to get to the RPM limiter..in fact..it can't get there per my tach. It stops accelerating at 64mph and just won't go any faster...and my tachometer says I am no where close to that magical 7750 marker. Now it well could be the A2 along with my 22 gram sliders causing this...and I might slap my 25 gram rollers back in just to see. 
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