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Offline jmj0123

Question on lift kit
« on: March 14, 2018, 05:00:14 PM »
I have a 2016 zforce 800 trail model and was wondering if the lift kit for the ex model or the wider model matches up and fits the same on the trail model?
2016 cfmoto zforce 800 trail eps

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Question on lift kit
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2018, 05:13:43 PM »
I think they have been mostly using bracket lift kits for the RzRs and even those needed some modifications to work. 
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
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Offline jmj0123

Re: Question on lift kit
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2018, 09:36:56 PM »
Ok good to know...so I’m assuming the spacers they make for ex don’t work with the trail?
2016 cfmoto zforce 800 trail eps

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Question on lift kit
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2018, 09:48:16 AM »
Ok good to know...so I’m assuming the spacers they make for ex don’t work with the trail?
The shock spacers? Sure, they work...they are like cranking-up the preload though.
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage |7- 9.7" GPS Systems | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front | Cage Chop Mod

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline REDRIDER

Re: Question on lift kit
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2018, 02:57:49 PM »
I wouldn't do a spring spacer lift unless you want a horrible stiff ride. I think smithifield sells bolt on lifts for the zforce

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Offline glenlivet

Re: Question on lift kit
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2018, 03:53:59 PM »
As NMK says, with threaded shock bodies like ours spring spacers won't do anything that isn't more easily done by just cranking down the threaded collar.
Thing is, for a decent ride the suspension has to be able to work both in extension as well as compression, and cranked up tight like that the shock spring unit will be basically extended already and there isn't much extending left to do.
Then when you go over a bump the spring is tight and it will jar the machine upward and when you go over a pothole the shock can't extend the wheel into the hole because it's already maxed out, so the whole machine drops down, to jar back up when you hit the other side.

I say this from experience. When I first got a set of Elkas for my quad, out of the box they were all the way loose and I spun the spring collars down down down until the ride height was what I thought was cool, and then I wondered what all the fuss was about Elka shocks, this thing rode like a tank! Are these shocks just a scam?

It wasn't until I read someone's post suggesting to take a cue from those Baja buggies, how they seemed to sit IN their suspension, not on top of it, that I understood that to work worth a darn the suspension has to have a certain amount of 'sag' in it. Those buggies drill it across all sorts of uneven ground and all four wheels are boogying up and down like jumping jacks, but the body rides more or less level.
That's what I'm going to be aiming for.  8)
« Last Edit: March 15, 2018, 04:03:03 PM by glenlivet »
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Offline jmj0123

Re: Question on lift kit
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2018, 09:15:51 PM »
Ok thanks guys...I Figured it would make the ride rough my wife bought me 30” tires for my birthday and just seeing about options to clear them better
2016 cfmoto zforce 800 trail eps

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Offline REDRIDER

Re: Question on lift kit
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2018, 07:25:55 AM »
Ok thanks guys...I Figured it would make the ride rough my wife bought me 30” tires for my birthday and just seeing about options to clear them better
You will be much better served with a bracket lift. well worth the money over spring spacers. I did the RZR 800 brackets I had to cut them to fit on a band saw and with my preload set as it was stock it lifted it too much. I actually have my preload just about all the way loose  and got 2 inches of lift with a pretty soft ride. I also removed the sway bar link so I have a lot of sway but I do a lot of technical stuff so I want the articulation. I can still whip around corners pretty good. I have an EX model though.