Yes, had some success. Had to do some homework, though. Found 3 other dealers in about a 6 hour radius that were selling theirs cheaper. How much they can negotiate likely depends on quite a bit. One big factor is how many units they bought at one time and what their shipping cost was per unit. If you are trying to buy something that is already there on their floor, I would think they could negotiate some. If you are ordering one, then I would say not so much. There's a dealer in Michigan selling them for MSRP OTD ($11,599), which includes all tax, fees, destination charges, set up, etc. Others are sticking to MSRP PLUS all that stuff. One dealer I spoke to in Wisconsin was asking $9999 for a '16 Zforce EX EPS, which is a good price. BUT.....they were tacking on $795 for freight/destination charges, $440 for set up, $140 for admin fees, and sales tax, which amounted to $12k OTD. Not exactly a great deal anymore. The place I went to sells a lot of motorcycles, and they sell them more in the spring, and the off-road stuff generally sells better in the fall. Now would probably be a good time to buy an off-road machine.