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Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« on: July 08, 2016, 09:57:10 AM »
I am adding one 24" light bar to the front of my Z8 and a smaller 7" to the rear for a backup light and for loading a trailer at night. While waiting on the mounting brackets to come in I decided to test run the 24" to see just how much light it puts out and what the actual amp draw was because I had assumed (and you know what that does) I could just use a Watts-to-Amps converter to get an answer.. which was what I based my size decision on for the front as the converter said it would pull 9.6 amps and I needed to stay under 10-amps. Well, using my amp probe that can measure DC draw, the 24" only pulls 4.6 amps. Had I known this, or it was listed on the information, I could have gone with a larger one. Oh well food for thought. This one will serve the need and leaves room for more accessories...lol.

So apparently there is another formula or factor to consider for load calcs when dealing with LEDs.
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Offline WalkinTarget

Re: Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2016, 10:54:35 AM »
I think you will find that the 24" does a very credible job. Obviously not as good as a 32" would have, but the difference from a 24 to a 32 is not nearly as great as traditional halogen to LED to begin with. What brand did you go for ? I have a few on on my Amazon wishlist that continue to drop in price, and I am surprised at the price difference in brands. I think the ones I like are Kawell.
2014 Arctic Cat Wildcat Trail - 27" GBC Dirt Commanders, soft top, quarter windshield, AC front and rear steel bumpers, Bandit springs, EZ Ryde Midnight Edition exhaust, Plano 1719 storage box, Speedwerx throttle and secondary clutch spring, heated seats, Polaris seat slider.

Sold: 2006 King Quad 700 - 27" ITP 589 M/S tires, ITP rims

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Re: Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2016, 11:15:53 AM »
Because of the low usage it will get and the reasonable reviews along with having both spot and floods, I went with this one. Seems to be good quality.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012CGFOOQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

For the little rear light I went with this one mostly because it was all flood which is what I wanted for the rear.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HAWGGIU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I also ordered a custom 3-way rocker that because it will set sideways, it has to have special lettering. Should be here is a few days along with the light mounts. 

2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline WalkinTarget

2014 Arctic Cat Wildcat Trail - 27" GBC Dirt Commanders, soft top, quarter windshield, AC front and rear steel bumpers, Bandit springs, EZ Ryde Midnight Edition exhaust, Plano 1719 storage box, Speedwerx throttle and secondary clutch spring, heated seats, Polaris seat slider.

Sold: 2006 King Quad 700 - 27" ITP 589 M/S tires, ITP rims

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Re: Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2016, 01:47:37 PM »
Probably a better light but...wow..the price..
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline chuddly

Re: Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2016, 02:53:34 PM »
@NMKawieraider -  I went with the same brand light but in a 32".  I am going to hook it up tonight (I hope LOL) If you want me to check anything on it let me know.

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Re: Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2016, 03:29:41 PM »
@NMKawieraider -  I went with the same brand light but in a 32".  I am going to hook it up tonight (I hope LOL) If you want me to check anything on it let me know.
Probably be only about 6-7 amps...lol. Some pics after mounted would be great. :)

I just approved this custom lay out for the three-way switch. I'll be putting it in that upper far right sideways slot on the dash.





« Last Edit: July 08, 2016, 03:31:54 PM by NMKawierider »
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline gfmoto

Re: Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2016, 10:44:31 PM »
I have had no amp draw problems when adding a 32" & 2- 4" to mine.  Run them both sometimes with the high beams and still no issues.
2015 ZForce 800EX
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DIY 1/2 windshield
UNI air filter
DIY rear window
BOSS ATV 28. 450W speakers
Alpena Rock Lights (tough pods)
2" RZR Bracket lift
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Re: Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2016, 08:40:39 PM »
The project is coming along. The front mounting brackets came today so I went ahead and mounted it and built and installed the wiring harness for both lights. Not bad. I wanted to mount it lower and tuck it in under the roof but the windshield put the kabosh to that. This should be OK though. And yes, you are seeing right..I removed that "widow's peak" in the middle. Never was a fan and with the roof off it was the perfect time.





I'll get the back one done when the mounts arrive in the mean time it will be somewhere about ..here.






« Last Edit: July 09, 2016, 08:44:51 PM by NMKawierider »
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Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline Jogon30

Re: Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2016, 09:40:06 AM »
Them lights look great!!!!

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Re: Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2016, 09:58:05 AM »
Thanks. It will be nice to finish this project. Still waiting on the custom switch and the rear light's brackets. I even have a LED battery monitor that was given to me from a friend on KR which is a Kawasaki forum that will come on when the front light is on. It will of course tell me what the battery is doing but is also bright enough to add a touch light to the cab...and its Kawasaki team green....lol
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Re: Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2016, 05:01:19 PM »
OK, need your opinions on something here. The brackets came in today for the rear light and I installed it. It's OK but I wish it didn't stick out as far as it does. But, if I cut a notch in the roof like you see where the lines are, I can rotate the clamps up and tuck 40-60% of the light back under the roof, like I wanted to do with the front before the windshield. I think it will give a cleaner look and as it probably will never get used, I'm not worried about heat and if I keep it there rail water will still run off into the bed.

So the question is...should I or shouldn't I?










2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline WalkinTarget

Re: Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2016, 05:58:36 PM »
Do it. It hangs out just a bit too far, so if you can make it less exposed, I say go for it. I can honestly say I have not seen a front mount light bar that I like yet. Mounted on top of the roof, I can guarantee where I ride it will get crunched by low hanging branches. Tucked under the roof, it will block my vision and generally annoy me too much. Mount it on the top of the pushbar and it now sits too low to really toss the light. I'm very picky on that front light bar location.
2014 Arctic Cat Wildcat Trail - 27" GBC Dirt Commanders, soft top, quarter windshield, AC front and rear steel bumpers, Bandit springs, EZ Ryde Midnight Edition exhaust, Plano 1719 storage box, Speedwerx throttle and secondary clutch spring, heated seats, Polaris seat slider.

Sold: 2006 King Quad 700 - 27" ITP 589 M/S tires, ITP rims

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Re: Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2016, 06:03:47 PM »
Yeah I like high and out of the way too. Hopefully the front being on the front face will keep some of the tree limbs off of it. I'm on the look out for some different mounts that will bring it down a little. The back one is easier to deal with. I think I want to ...see less of it :)

 
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Interesting observation regarding Amp usage with LEDs
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2016, 06:45:18 PM »
Why not heat that section of roof and form it around the light. If the bracket is pitched up, water will follow it down to the cage. Might drip behind the seats. If you decide to go with forming, make a wood form and use another block of wood with rounded edges to push it.
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