[mayor hal]

My dealer has decided to stop selling the CF Moto because the retail price has been raised up to almost the prices of the Yamaha models that he sells too and people are going that route instead!! 
CF Moto are going to shoot themselves in the foot if they try increasing prices before they actually get a real foothold in the marketplace!

[WalkinTarget]

Is this official on the 2016 models I'm curious if this is across the board on all remaining stock.

[mayor hal]

Is this official on the 2016 models I'm curious if this is across the board on all remaining stock.

Not exactly sure what you are asking me? He didn't even bring in any 2016 models.

[Bobbed06]

Yep, best quote I got on a new 2016 Z force 800EX EPS cash OTD was 11k, and the best quote I got on a 2016 Yamaha Wolverine R spec EPS was $11,200 cash OTD These prices do not reflect state taxes, as I was out of state on both quotes.

Hard to justify buying a CF Moto being the new guy on the block with some known quality control issues, when Yamaha is readily available at the same price.

[Cosmosdan]

If they try to get the same money as the big guys, they will never get a foothold in the US. A lot of people have never heard of them yet and are not going to take a chance on them.

[mayor hal]

Ya, it's too bad for sure. They do very little advertising,  marketing or anything else to pump up the brand, but they are right there to try and get the big bucks for these units before they are proven to the public.  They seem to be selling reasonably well in the province of Quebec but as for the rest of Canada, you hardly here a peep? Wonder why? Doesn't make any sense to me, that's for sure!

[ACIDICJO]

Last time I walked into my dealer I noticed they had no CFMoto's on the show room floor. Just a old Z6 outside they have been trying to sell forever. But no new inventory. Now I'm wondering if they same thing is happening here to. Hope not.

[mrwonderfull]

u kids are talking about the side by sides the wolverine has a 47 hp engine and urs has 63. not even the same class machine.

[gfmoto]

2 things to consider. 
1.) Cfmoto give you a bunch of "extras" for that price and a bigger engine and a 1 year warranty vs. Yamaha 6 month.
2.) Cfmoto HAS to keep a somewhat of a competitive price to be "trusted" as one of the key players.

If they came out and sold an 800cc model with all the goodies for $8000, they would be considered CHEAP. And quickly dismissed as such. We need dealers to SELL them. Promote the quality and the features and educate the customer of the brand.
If your in the market for these toys you probably know none are cheap. And what do we hear about the expensive brands? "You get what you pay for!" So why do we bust their chops when they charge?.

[WalkinTarget]

Sadly, there are very few choices in the 50" sport market, and other than the CF Moto, all you have are the Arctic Cat Wildcat Trail and the ubiquitous Polaris Rzr. I even briefly considered an Ace 900. Sticking that motor in that smaller chassis seemed like a helluva lotta fun, but having a 5.25 gallon tank and getting 12mpg is pretty crappy.

I'm actually going to a Bass Pro Shop tomorrow to look at the Wildcat Trail again, but it has issues that just cannot easily be addressed - no mudflaps at all - so everything, from mud to rocks, can and will fly back into the cab. Many important parts such as the radiator and brake master cylinder are for the most part unprotected from mud and rocks thrown at them. And to top it off, there aren't any reputable AC dealers anywhere near me.

The Rzr 570 is probably my only other choice, as I have no interest in dropping 15k+ to get a 900 with the options I'm after. My BiL's was 13,2k base price, climbing up to 16,3k with extras (winch, roof, full doors, windshields front and rear, and a storage box). I'm looking at adding the same options to whatever I buy, so I can justify paying 11k for a loaded EPS Zforce 800 53, but not 13k for a base Rzr 900.   

[gfmoto]

Just a note on the Arctic Cat. I like the look, and my friend has the 1000, had no trouble keeping up with him in my Z800.  When I was in your shoes and in my research phase I looked at the Arctic Cat and the dealer told me that he doesn't exactly push them because the company didn't want to really help a lot when they had issues.  i.e. The engine brake... One way bearing...they go out on them VERY quickly, and when they doArtic Cat told them the way to "fix" it is just take it out.
Not knocking them just sharing a story from a reputable Arctic Cat dealer. 

[Revolutionary]

I still think the 800EX EPS is a great buy for less than 12K, for the features, ride & engine. EVery time I look at a comparably equipped RZR, I know they paid closer to 20K for it....and I bought 2 of these, out the door; for $23K.

[NMKawierider]

I still think the 800EX EPS is a great buy for less than 12K, for the features, ride & engine. EVery time I look at a comparably equipped RZR, I know they paid closer to 20K for it....and I bought 2 of these, out the door; for $23K.

And that's the best way to think of it. Long as they are well under the comps with all these extras you get. These may not have all the quality parts the others have, but they are simple machines, easy to fix and even upgrade what doesn't work well for your situation. With some simple safeguard mods and common sense these should give many years of good service.

[Bobbed06]

u kids are talking about the side by sides the wolverine has a 47 hp engine and urs has 63. not even the same class machine.

No Kid here...38 year old tech with 20 years experience.

You are correct as the Wolverine isnt in the same hp league as the Z Force. So I will add in I also was quoted $12,050 OTD cash on a 2015 Arcic Cat Wildcat Sport Limited, that will spank the Z force all day, any Rzr800 or 900. And it has Elka Stage 5 shocks and Doors included.

The CF Moto warranty is useless to me as dealer network is non existent in my area. Its just not cost effective to drive 4 hrs round trip every time I have a issue. (which will happen) That being said, regardless of brand warranty is of no value to me as I never trust anybody to work on my stuff. Its just how I am, I care more about my stuff than anybody else ever will. And I trust when I fix stuff its done right.

The Arctic Cat Wildcat Sport does have some known issues, but they are much better designed from a service stand point. Belt change can be done trail side with a few simple tools. That and there clutch design is from a long standing history of high hp sleds. They will handle 60hp and 4 tires no issues when compared to a track and 100 plus HP on a sled.

[Bobbed06]

GF Moto, I think these CF Motos are worth $8000-8500 all day.....That puts them in competition with ATV buyers that overlook side by sides due to high costs. I do agree with what you are saying about that price point being cheap, but buyers in the know realize price doesnt always dictate what you get.. For example, Rzrs cost 15-20k and they are still problematic with a bunch of disgruntled owners. Some even losing recall completed vehicles to fires.

That being said, I would have never left that 16 Z Force 800EX EPS at the dealer had it been closer to 9k OTD as opposed to $11k. That savings is enuff to justify an engine overhaul or trans, diff replacement if I experienced a large component failure even after warranty.