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Offline federimau

starting bad at low revs
« on: September 20, 2016, 10:58:28 PM »
Hi to all!
I have a problem with my new terralander 800. when i start running and open the gas, the motor do not respond quicly (slowly open accelerator). I feel there are a short cut-out and then the power comes...
Is this normal? what can i do for check it?
Thanks in advance
Mau

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2016, 11:13:21 PM »
Check usual things. Air filter, spark plugs bad gas. Has it always been sluggish or slow to get going?
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Offline federimau

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2016, 03:48:46 AM »
Hi Cosmo, thanks for reply, the ATV is new (20 miles). it is slow to get going from stop, at low revs and starting slow with the accelerator. it si normal?
Mau

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2016, 06:37:08 AM »
Sounds like a clutching preference to me. Maybe the 800 owners will chime in on this too. If you don't like the way it's clutched, you do have some options. There is a wet clutch in there. It engages it two stages at set RPMs. If your a big dude, carrying a passenger or anything else that makes it heavier, you can set the secondary spring heavier to make it go into a lower gear faster to avoid bogging. You can also use lighter weight rollers in the primary to increase RPM the cvt goes through its range.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline NL800

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2016, 07:16:47 AM »
This is not normal and you should take it back to the dealer to fix.
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Offline federimau

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2016, 02:16:30 PM »
Thanks for all your answers. First of all I will check it with dealer. In the future I will see the mods from cosmodan.
Other issue... I pulling a car (low and 4x4 and locked) it is a good atv for do this... All fine pulling the car until I stop and start pulling again (here the atv stops) show me warning light.
I try to start it again, it starts but the accelerator do not respond (neutral this time) push the gas 3 or 4 times with no power response from motor. Then the power shows again....
What is that?
Mau

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Online NMKawierider

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2016, 02:21:38 PM »
Thanks for all your answers. First of all I will check it with dealer. In the future I will see the mods from cosmodan.
Other issue... I pulling a car (low and 4x4 and locked) it is a good atv for do this... All fine pulling the car until I stop and start pulling again (here the atv stops) show me warning light.
I try to start it again, it starts but the accelerator do not respond (neutral this time) push the gas 3 or 4 times with no power response from motor. Then the power shows again....
What is that?
And what is the towing capacity of the quad? About 800-1100 lbs? And what does the car weigh?.. What warning light came on?
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Offline federimau

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2016, 07:58:03 PM »
Thanks for all your answers. First of all I will check it with dealer. In the future I will see the mods from cosmodan.
Other issue... I pulling a car (low and 4x4 and locked) it is a good atv for do this... All fine pulling the car until I stop and start pulling again (here the atv stops) show me warning light.
I try to start it again, it starts but the accelerator do not respond (neutral this time) push the gas 3 or 4 times with no power response from motor. Then the power shows again....
What is that?
And what is the towing capacity of the quad? About 800-1100 lbs? And what does the car weigh?.. What warning light came on?

That was a little car and was easy to move. The warning lights was efi and oil pressure (it is ok with motor stopped)
What do you think?
Mau

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2016, 08:05:00 PM »
Bring it in. There is more to it than just clutching. They will likely find a code stored in the ECU to help track down the source of your issues.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline federimau

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2016, 09:12:15 AM »
Bring it in. There is more to it than just clutching. They will likely find a code stored in the ECU to help track down the source of your issues.

Ok Cosmo. My first contact with dealer, they say can be bad gas or any dirt in fuel system.
I said i use good gas and the ATV is brand new (40 miles)
they question me about any warning lights, no warning light came on (only efi and oil pressure when the motor shutdown)

What do you think?
Mau

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Offline federimau

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2016, 09:49:41 AM »
Sounds like a clutching preference to me. Maybe the 800 owners will chime in on this too. If you don't like the way it's clutched, you do have some options. There is a wet clutch in there. It engages it two stages at set RPMs. If your a big dude, carrying a passenger or anything else that makes it heavier, you can set the secondary spring heavier to make it go into a lower gear faster to avoid bogging. You can also use lighter weight rollers in the primary to increase RPM the cvt goes through its range.

Hi Cosmo, are you talking about return springs at clutch assy?
Mau

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2016, 06:31:14 PM »
Yes, spring in the driven clutch. The lights are on when you turn the key and turn off after you start it? Does the engine rev up good while in neutral? If it does, than it may not be engine related.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline mycha1236

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2016, 12:55:04 AM »
Hello all, also have the same problem, the engine braking and try to gentle acceleration of the engine and then throttling is already well

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Offline federimau

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2016, 07:56:42 AM »
Hello all, also have the same problem, the engine braking and try to gentle acceleration of the engine and then throttling is already well


hi friend, it is your atv new brand?
Mau

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Offline federimau

Re: starting bad at low revs
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2016, 08:03:35 AM »
Yes, spring in the driven clutch. The lights are on when you turn the key and turn off after you start it? Does the engine rev up good while in neutral? If it does, than it may not be engine related.

Yes Cosmo the warning lights comes off when machine starts.
Only one time (for now) the machine do not rev good in neutral (that was commented in the past).
Here are some questions i do: When the clutch engage at low revs (and at slow speed)... it can rev down the engine? or can do the engine rattle?... or when starting from stopped, can do the engine stops?
Mau