[30Carbine]

Danoduke,

Re-read my post closely.  As of now, there is no real fix for this issue yet.  The ECU reflash with hide or suppress the P0172 error code but will NOT fix the running issue (stalling above idle when hot).  I have contacted CFMOTO directly about this issue.  They need to get this issue under control and fast.  The numbers just keep growing regarding this issue.  If you share the ECU reflash information with your dealer be sure to be clear that the current ECU reflash does not fully repair the issue and demand that this fact is conveyed to CFMoto as part of the warranty claim.

[Chris57]

Long saga with the dealer and error code. They said it was loose battery, I didn’t accept that. They changed the ECU and they are still running electrical tests. One month at the shop.  I’ll post an update once I have a better understanding.

[eg78]

They're telling me they may need to replace the ECU. I got no codes but my 800 doesnt start half the time.
I wont be happy if they keep it for a month, been there since Monday.

[Jodex11]

Having read the posts here, let's make sure this doesn't blow up into an issue that everybody thinks the ECU is the cure-all. Reinstalling the ECU software specifically addresses the P0172 code. That is all it's for....nothing else.
Those of you who are having hesitation or stalling, that is a completely separate issue from a P0172. It appears that dealer techs need more detailed information to go on (air temp, fuel octane, driving style-conditions), and they need to be able to duplicate what you experienced on the trail. If the dealer tech can't duplicate it, what are they supposed to tell CFMOTO? Also, reality is that the factory (and their engineering department) is in China...

[Z8rider]

Having read the posts here, let's make sure this doesn't blow up into an issue that everybody thinks the ECU is the cure-all. Reinstalling the ECU software specifically addresses the P0172 code. That is all it's for....nothing else.
Those of you who are having hesitation or stalling, that is a completely separate issue from a P0172. It appears that dealer techs need more detailed information to go on (air temp, fuel octane, driving style-conditions), and they need to be able to duplicate what you experienced on the trail. If the dealer tech can't duplicate it, what are they supposed to tell CFMOTO? Also, reality is that the factory (and their engineering department) is in China...

Just like Yamaha or honda is in japan... oh wait, just like any global company they have locations in more than just the country the product is manufactured. Who knew! I just think its comical how so many of you guys can't get over the china thing... if a part is on backorder from one of the japanese or "american" manufacturers... is your first thought, "well ya its coming all the way from Japan or China".

[neil850xc]

I just picked up my new 850xc and noticed this also , my dealer said it was normal so i left it at that as its under warrenty so i didnt mind too much.

[30Carbine]

A brand new machine not running is "normal".  You need to find a new dealer.   

Take it back and get it fixed.  Every dealer I spoke to praises the responsiveness of CFMoto when it comes to support issues that crop up.  This problem is tough to reproduce with a 5 minute ride around the dealer's parking lot.  It mainly occurs during normal trail riding (longer trips) on hotter days (above 80 degrees F).  If yours is doing it and it is reproduce-able, get it to the dealer.  I get the sense from talking to my dealer that CFMoto is eager to get a good example machine in the shop with the issue so it can be addressed.

[neil850xc]

30 carbine i was refering to the original post  , just new to the forum trying to get the swing of it

[30Carbine]

Oh.  You mean the oil alarm?

Yes, this is a non issue and is normal to beep a time or two or three when starting.  Especially when very cold out side.

Thanks for clarifying.

[neil850xc]

Thanks for the info its good to know from another person whom has one too.
My dealer tells me i have to buy another ignition coil after 20 hours to de-restrict my atv which costs 250 euro anyone else have this issue ?

[bwzforce800]

End of May.  Sounds like you are participating in the Central Mountains ATV Association ride.?  Enjoy your ride!

No family ride. Bunch of my wifes family go every year.

[eg78]

Got it back, there were no codes on mine, they said there was a recall about some tube being in the wrong place... Not sure why they wouldn't explain it more in detail. Anyhow no problem since I got it back, time will tell. However since getting it back I find my brakes are squeaking a lot!! What the heck could they have done to cause that?

[danoduke]

Just got mine back from an ECU reflash.  The code is cleared but I haven't had time to run it hard to see if it returns. 

I did contact CFMOTO-USA regarding this issue and asked if the reflash is their best fix.  There response was:  "Thank you for contacting CFMOTO.  CFMOTO-USA cannot provide technical diagnosis of our vehicles to consumers. There is no technical support department for consumers.  In order to properly diagnose the issues that you are experiencing, your dealer will take a look at your vehicle and work with our warranty department to determine how to repair your vehicle".   

Not happy with their response since the problem can't be replicated at my dealer.  I only get the issue when driving in hot weather for a couple hours. 

[engineereskimo]

Dealer tech here trying to make heads or tails of the hot stall issue. All the oem brake pads these machines come with collect dirt terribly and i have seen aftermarket pads solve the issue. Anyone find out any more info on the stall it will help a ton, will also post once i find anything out too. TBH the XC's are great machines, they just need to get the kinks ironed out.

[30Carbine]

I have been sharing information with a dealer in Minnesota who has been working with CFMoto headquarters regarding the stalling when hot issue.  He has informed me, based on information owners have been providing, CFMoto has been able to reproduce the issue during their tests.  CFMoto is researching a revised TMAP sensor, a modified gas cap and possibly other things but I do not believe there is a formal solution as of yet. 

I agree with the previous post.  My experience has been the XC is a joy to drive and takes you where you want to go minus this somewhat hard to recreate stalling issue (does not happen all the time or every ride, it seems to only happen on hotter days during longer rides).

Keep providing information to your dealers with as many details as possible.  The dealers and CFMoto appear to be listening.