[Cosmosdan]

I'm not trying to stir the pot, but I  was considering building my own WCD. I was planning on using the trailbloc primary because of tunability. Wildcat owners have had good luck with them and adjustments seemed easy enough

[Hrc630]

You can order it directly via CMI (Canadian import for CF Moto)
Check my post.

This is the clutch kit HRC630 is talking about.

I have a couple concerns about the CVTech clutch set up though.

The biggest is lack of tuning. These don't have Rollers/Sliders like the stock clutches, so even more so, there wont be much if anything for tuning the weights. This means when/if a big bore kit comes out, a turbo kit, or even something like bigger tires for mudding, are installed, you're stuck with the same tune.

I also just got off the phone with CMI. There is still a delay in shipping these units, so its still possibly 2-3 weeks out for retail sale.

Lastly, the price I was given was pretty shocking. Dealer cost, plus shipping and importation fees putslose to the cost of the STM set up, and with them, you also get a Secondary, not to mention, the full tuneability of BOTH clutches.

Not saying there CVTech clutches are bad, but I'f im going to spend THAT much money, I want to be able to do a lot more with them.

Just my two cents.

Oh and NO. The American dollar exchange rate DOES NOT MATTER. Dealers are charged the same as the Canadians, so please, leave that out of here. Its been discussed and explained to death.

Emersonsc, i know you try toi push STM (good compagny) but dont foul people..
The CVTech are tunable as the STM and need a lot less maintenance. Here in Quebec (Canada) there are a lot of sled with over 300 hp with turbo system that run CVTech clutch and the tuning of Powerblock or Trailblock are well know.
You have write to me to stop posting in your wet clutch delete post and i am ok with that but i dont understand why since its a public forum and i only Share my expérience with the wet clutch delete kit i have and i am the only one here that have try it... dont speak about what you dont know. Both primary and secondary from cvtech are fully tunable (Weight, spring, helix) and you can place your rpm where you whant for bigger tires or turbo kit.
Also the price you have send to me is double what i have paid for the CVTech...
Post the right thing please...

Please provide us with sites where we can get different springs and weights for these clutches. I've yet to find any. Not saying they don't exist, I've just never found anything.

Also, I never told you to stop posting your clutches, so, as you say, "post the right thing" please.

What I asked you was to please not thread hijack. It's in bad taste.

This user didn't ask specifically for your clutches, but for a wet clutch delete. I posted a wet clutch delete kit, as well as my opinion on both kits. I've given my examples, and links. I specifically called CMI and was given a price tag and passed it along. You also forget you're IN CANADA where duty fees, taxes, and importation & shipping fees aren't part of the equation. I've spoken to the parts department there over the last few months over these who had given me the approximate cost of the clutches.

If you've noticed, I respectfully stayed out of your "race clutch" thread because that was a thread specific to the CVTec clutches.

Don't forget, you also attacked me via private message accusing me of hating Canadians because I spoke ill of CVTec. Apparently not being a fan of a product makes me prejdiced against an entire country and its people?

Other than being a stock clutch set up on certain OEM vehicles, you just don't see CVTec clutches in the States. Not saying they don't get used, but they aren't a popular clutch here. I have plenty of experience with the clutches in an OEM setting and I'm not impressed. That's my opinion, and, again as you stated, posted in a public forum.

Here a copy my friend...


Quote from: emersonsc on February 28, 2016, 10:45:05 am
Could you please start a new thread regarding your clutches? It makes it too confusing considering my thread is regarding the STM clutches and you started posting in that thread about a whole different set.

Thank you.


No problem, but your title say wet clutch delete , so i think its good for all member to see that they have more than one option...
My kit is directly from CMI and its a complete race kit, not just the clutch kit.
I Will remove my reply from your post because as i understand your are not here for help other member but for making money.
If you dont want people to argu or post in your tread why you dont offer your pieces in a vendor Tread

Anyway, STM make awesome product , i have one on my sled 1100 turbo

Francis

[Hrc630]

You can order it directly via CMI (Canadian import for CF Moto)
Check my post.

This is the clutch kit HRC630 is talking about.

I have a couple concerns about the CVTech clutch set up though.

The biggest is lack of tuning. These don't have Rollers/Sliders like the stock clutches, so even more so, there wont be much if anything for tuning the weights. This means when/if a big bore kit comes out, a turbo kit, or even something like bigger tires for mudding, are installed, you're stuck with the same tune.

I also just got off the phone with CMI. There is still a delay in shipping these units, so its still possibly 2-3 weeks out for retail sale.

Lastly, the price I was given was pretty shocking. Dealer cost, plus shipping and importation fees putslose to the cost of the STM set up, and with them, you also get a Secondary, not to mention, the full tuneability of BOTH clutches.

Not saying there CVTech clutches are bad, but I'f im going to spend THAT much money, I want to be able to do a lot more with them.

Just my two cents.

Oh and NO. The American dollar exchange rate DOES NOT MATTER. Dealers are charged the same as the Canadians, so please, leave that out of here. Its been discussed and explained to death.

Emersonsc, i know you try toi push STM (good compagny) but dont foul people..
The CVTech are tunable as the STM and need a lot less maintenance. Here in Quebec (Canada) there are a lot of sled with over 300 hp with turbo system that run CVTech clutch and the tuning of Powerblock or Trailblock are well know.
You have write to me to stop posting in your wet clutch delete post and i am ok with that but i dont understand why since its a public forum and i only Share my expérience with the wet clutch delete kit i have and i am the only one here that have try it... dont speak about what you dont know. Both primary and secondary from cvtech are fully tunable (Weight, spring, helix) and you can place your rpm where you whant for bigger tires or turbo kit.
Also the price you have send to me is double what i have paid for the CVTech...
Post the right thing please...

Please provide us with sites where we can get different springs and weights for these clutches. I've yet to find any. Not saying they don't exist, I've just never found anything.

Also, I never told you to stop posting your clutches, so, as you say, "post the right thing" please.

What I asked you was to please not thread hijack. It's in bad taste.

This user didn't ask specifically for your clutches, but for a wet clutch delete. I posted a wet clutch delete kit, as well as my opinion on both kits. I've given my examples, and links. I specifically called CMI and was given a price tag and passed it along. You also forget you're IN CANADA where duty fees, taxes, and importation & shipping fees aren't part of the equation. I've spoken to the parts department there over the last few months over these who had given me the approximate cost of the clutches.

If you've noticed, I respectfully stayed out of your "race clutch" thread because that was a thread specific to the CVTec clutches.

Don't forget, you also attacked me via private message accusing me of hating Canadians because I spoke ill of CVTec. Apparently not being a fan of a product makes me prejdiced against an entire country and its people?

Other than being a stock clutch set up on certain OEM vehicles, you just don't see CVTec clutches in the States. Not saying they don't get used, but they aren't a popular clutch here. I have plenty of experience with the clutches in an OEM setting and I'm not impressed. That's my opinion, and, again as you stated, posted in a public forum.

Also, in the US the CVtech clutch are the most propular for all BRP performance quad and SbS...
I dont understand how you can speak again something you dont know...

I dont want to start a war, but you make statement that the CVtech are not ajustable for bigger tire etc... And you plug the STM like its gold and you dont even have try the STM...
How can you argu on 2 products you dont have try and more important induct other member in error...

In the start of the CMI race kit, you have tell to every one that its a stock modified clutch ... Every Time you have talk before even know... CMI race with modified ZForce for 3 years now...

The same for de 1000cc...and the admin have block the post... The 1000cc run in China...

[davidpaul]

I've decided not to go for the clutch delete, mainly because my wet clutch seems to be improving, it's much smoother now.

[emersonsc]

You can order it directly via CMI (Canadian import for CF Moto)
Check my post.

This is the clutch kit HRC630 is talking about.

I have a couple concerns about the CVTech clutch set up though.

The biggest is lack of tuning. These don't have Rollers/Sliders like the stock clutches, so even more so, there wont be much if anything for tuning the weights. This means when/if a big bore kit comes out, a turbo kit, or even something like bigger tires for mudding, are installed, you're stuck with the same tune.

I also just got off the phone with CMI. There is still a delay in shipping these units, so its still possibly 2-3 weeks out for retail sale.

Lastly, the price I was given was pretty shocking. Dealer cost, plus shipping and importation fees putslose to the cost of the STM set up, and with them, you also get a Secondary, not to mention, the full tuneability of BOTH clutches.

Not saying there CVTech clutches are bad, but I'f im going to spend THAT much money, I want to be able to do a lot more with them.

Just my two cents.

Oh and NO. The American dollar exchange rate DOES NOT MATTER. Dealers are charged the same as the Canadians, so please, leave that out of here. Its been discussed and explained to death.

Emersonsc, i know you try toi push STM (good compagny) but dont foul people..
The CVTech are tunable as the STM and need a lot less maintenance. Here in Quebec (Canada) there are a lot of sled with over 300 hp with turbo system that run CVTech clutch and the tuning of Powerblock or Trailblock are well know.
You have write to me to stop posting in your wet clutch delete post and i am ok with that but i dont understand why since its a public forum and i only Share my expérience with the wet clutch delete kit i have and i am the only one here that have try it... dont speak about what you dont know. Both primary and secondary from cvtech are fully tunable (Weight, spring, helix) and you can place your rpm where you whant for bigger tires or turbo kit.
Also the price you have send to me is double what i have paid for the CVTech...
Post the right thing please...

Please provide us with sites where we can get different springs and weights for these clutches. I've yet to find any. Not saying they don't exist, I've just never found anything.

Also, I never told you to stop posting your clutches, so, as you say, "post the right thing" please.

What I asked you was to please not thread hijack. It's in bad taste.

This user didn't ask specifically for your clutches, but for a wet clutch delete. I posted a wet clutch delete kit, as well as my opinion on both kits. I've given my examples, and links. I specifically called CMI and was given a price tag and passed it along. You also forget you're IN CANADA where duty fees, taxes, and importation & shipping fees aren't part of the equation. I've spoken to the parts department there over the last few months over these who had given me the approximate cost of the clutches.

If you've noticed, I respectfully stayed out of your "race clutch" thread because that was a thread specific to the CVTec clutches.

Don't forget, you also attacked me via private message accusing me of hating Canadians because I spoke ill of CVTec. Apparently not being a fan of a product makes me prejdiced against an entire country and its people?

Other than being a stock clutch set up on certain OEM vehicles, you just don't see CVTec clutches in the States. Not saying they don't get used, but they aren't a popular clutch here. I have plenty of experience with the clutches in an OEM setting and I'm not impressed. That's my opinion, and, again as you stated, posted in a public forum.

Also, in the US the CVtech clutch are the most propular for all BRP performance quad and SbS...
I dont understand how you can speak again something you dont know...

I dont want to start a war, but you make statement that the CVtech are not ajustable for bigger tire etc... And you plug the STM like its gold and you dont even have try the STM...
How can you argu on 2 products you dont have try and more important induct other member in error...

In the start of the CMI race kit, you have tell to every one that its a stock modified clutch ... Every Time you have talk before even know... CMI race with modified ZForce for 3 years now...

The same for de 1000cc...and the admin have block the post... The 1000cc run in China...

Interesting... You do realize I DO have the STM wet clutch delete kit in my rig right? I plan on enjoying then today on a nice trail ride. I've posted several pictures of them actually.

Might want to get your facts straight sir.

Also, whole I haven't dealt with the CMI wet clutch kit, mainly because they claim as of last week it's still not available, I have dealt with CVTech in other machines.

Like I said before, my opinion is, I'm not impressed with them. I don't like them.

Move on, please. This is getting old.

[Wheels]

So your saying you have not dealt with them, you don't know anything about them, so there bad.  Hahaha. Nice.  Ever heard of an airdam clutch?? Wait, this is getting old. Moving on

[NMKawierider]

What I ..and I'm sure others would like to see is the owners of these clutches, after some real seat time, do a complete write-up on them...and them only. All their experiences and impressions...good and ..not so good...cause nothing's perfect..right? These are expensive modifications and all the real-world input sure would be a big help.

[emersonsc]

So your saying you have not dealt with them, you don't know anything about them, so there bad.  Hahaha. Nice.  Ever heard of an airdam clutch?? Wait, this is getting old. Moving on

Actually what I said was I haven't dealt with the specific clutch kit, but I have dealt with CVTec clutches (who makes one of the wet clutch kits that's in debate here).

[Hrc630]

Yeah... You have a LOT a expérience with CVTech clutch but dont know they are Fully ajustable... Please stop argu and post your unbiased comment on the STM and CVTech only when you have put a couple hundred miles on it.
Francis