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Nighthawk

homemade snorkel?
« on: August 26, 2015, 08:28:44 AM »
Hey guys,
If any of you have made a homemade snorkel kit on you z8's  for the intake and/or the clutch/belt, I'd love to see more info and pictures.
Looking to do this on mine and looking for ideas and materials used.

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Offline ACIDICJO

Re: homemade snorkel?
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2015, 12:37:48 PM »
I keep meaning to do it and keep putting it off. But with everything I've seen on here about people having problems with the air box, water in the diff, things like that. It's seems like a good thing to do. If anything for the safety of the bike.
2014 ZForce 800 EX
14 in ITP Hurricane's
Sedona Mudder InLaws 30's
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Re: homemade snorkel?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2015, 02:28:36 PM »
Going to look at a snorkel build soon. I'm unsure on how sealed the air filter box is tho..

I guess one way to check would be to build the snorkel then put a hard back book over the snorkel to see if it cuts the engine off showing there's no air leaks

Thinking some thing like this in picture.
But would like to hear any ideas anyone else has also..

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Offline Hansel

Re: homemade snorkel?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2015, 07:42:32 PM »
Here is my attempt at snorkeling.  I posted the pictures of the build, along with the final result.  The up side is that I did not have to modify any of the factory plastics.  I secured the snorkels via a metal bar that I attached to the factory air intake bolt hole. Ultimately, the good news is that previously, I was getting water into the clutch through the clutch exhaust.  Now, that is no longer an issue.  I don't go through super deep stuff, but tire height is about as deep as I've done and that got water to go through the clutch exhaust. 

Anyway, the Pros are that it looks good, I didn't have to cut the plastics, the airflow is now even for all intake and exhaust tubes at 2", where as the factory tubes vary in diameter.  No adverse issues under use.  Cons.  The panel that covers the area behind the seats does not fit nicely, back as it should.  The hose from the clutch exhaust is a bit too far forward, to allow the panel to seat as it should.  If I can find some flexible tube, I can probably get it to work better.  However, here's the big down side.  There is a reason the clutch exhaust is blown over the front header.  It gets hot!!!  With the panel not secured, any excess idling or slow speed running, will be noticeable, as heat will be surrounding you.  That's probably not a bad thing as fall approaches, but it was fairly unpleasent in the heat of the summer.  I'll probably post a full How To when I find some flexible tubing and rework my current setup.

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Offline Jason

Re: homemade snorkel?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2015, 08:44:18 PM »
Looks good.  It's ironic that you found us and posted this today - I just found a guy on Instagram who snorkled one for somebody.

He's located in Collins, Mississippi and is interested in making a kit to sell if anybody is near that area and would like to take their machine to him so he can make the kit and instructions.  See the screenshots below:
« Last Edit: September 06, 2015, 08:46:40 PM by Jason »

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Offline mayor hal

Re: homemade snorkel?
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2015, 07:19:01 AM »
Here is my attempt at snorkeling.  I posted the pictures of the build, along with the final result.  The up side is that I did not have to modify any of the factory plastics.  I secured the snorkels via a metal bar that I attached to the factory air intake bolt hole. Ultimately, the good news is that previously, I was getting water into the clutch through the clutch exhaust.  Now, that is no longer an issue.  I don't go through super deep stuff, but tire height is about as deep as I've done and that got water to go through the clutch exhaust. 

Anyway, the Pros are that it looks good, I didn't have to cut the plastics, the airflow is now even for all intake and exhaust tubes at 2", where as the factory tubes vary in diameter.  No adverse issues under use.  Cons.  The panel that covers the area behind the seats does not fit nicely, back as it should.  The hose from the clutch exhaust is a bit too far forward, to allow the panel to seat as it should.  If I can find some flexible tube, I can probably get it to work better.  However, here's the big down side.  There is a reason the clutch exhaust is blown over the front header.  It gets hot!!!  With the panel not secured, any excess idling or slow speed running, will be noticeable, as heat will be surrounding you.  That's probably not a bad thing as fall approaches, but it was fairly unpleasant in the heat of the summer.  I'll probably post a full How To when I find some flexible tubing and rework my current setup.
Very nice job and thanks for the pics! Seems like you really have to strip the bike down to get after everything though?
It will be very helpful when I do mine.  :D
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Offline Hansel

Re: homemade snorkel?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2015, 09:35:06 PM »
As far as stripping things down, I guess...  You could probably do it without taking the bed out of the back, but it did make getting to things easier.  Other than the bed, all I took off was the access panel behind the seats. 

I did want to mention that I wrapped all the pipes in insulation tape and painted the exposed part black.  The pipes get fairly warm/hot when riding, but not an issue so far and I've been riding in 90+ degrees.  I did put the stock preflight sock over the engine intake snorkel.  I cleaned it off a few times throughout the day.  At the end of the weekend of riding, in fairly dusty conditions, the airbox was full of dust.  I'll put part of the blame on the fact that I still don't think the seal is very good, despite putting some silicone lube on it to help the seal.

I'm also going to work on trying to incorporate the factory clutch intake pre filter, since the clutch was pretty dusty too.

One thing I do really like about this set up is that it is noticeably quieter, as the clutch intake whine isn't as bad.  I can actually hear the engine over the clutch now!!!  I'll keep improving on the design and keep you posted.  Definitely need to find some flexible hose for the clutch exhaust and set up a radiator fan to blow on the front header.  Anyway, probably a winter project.  We'll see.

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Offline Luckieboy

Re: homemade snorkel?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2015, 01:16:29 PM »
Hey guys I'm doing my snorkel I really need to know how many vent lines there are. Also I see you have 3 snorkels? But it seems I need to put 4. I have a Zforce 800

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emersonsc

Re: homemade snorkel?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2015, 10:18:43 AM »
Hey guys I'm doing my snorkel I really need to know how many vent lines there are. Also I see you have 3 snorkels? But it seems I need to put 4. I have a Zforce 800

Air Intake, CVT Intake, CVT exhaust. I already did my Air-Intake. Take a look at my post in the How-To section

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: homemade snorkel?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2015, 10:44:21 AM »
Hey guys I'm doing my snorkel I really need to know how many vent lines there are. Also I see you have 3 snorkels? But it seems I need to put 4. I have a Zforce 800

Air Intake, CVT Intake, CVT exhaust. I already did my Air-Intake. Take a look at my post in the How-To section

Yeah that's it. Maybe for safety take the diff and rear gearbox vents to the top of one snorkel. I can't think of anything else unless you have some reason to snorkel the exhaust.
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Offline ACIDICJO

Re: homemade snorkel?
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2015, 10:01:49 AM »
Hansel how did you seal up the clutch? Did you remove the entire clutches, primary and secondary and silicon the bolts behind them? Did you silicon around the clutch cover also?
If so what did you use? If not how has it held up?

On the videos I've seen of Rzr's (Louie from PowerModz) they do this. Also runs his vent lines up, did you do this also?
2014 ZForce 800 EX
14 in ITP Hurricane's
Sedona Mudder InLaws 30's
2 inch lift
24 inch light bar
2 cube lights
6 inch rear light bar
Wetsounds stealth 10 soundbar
BlueSea Fuseblock
2012 Polaris Rzr 800 all black
2005 Honda Rincon gone but not forgotten

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Offline CFZak

Re: homemade snorkel?
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2015, 11:04:57 PM »
Here is my attempt at snorkeling.  I posted the pictures of the build, along with the final result.  The up side is that I did not have to modify any of the factory plastics.  I secured the snorkels via a metal bar that I attached to the factory air intake bolt hole. Ultimately, the good news is that previously, I was getting water into the clutch through the clutch exhaust.  Now, that is no longer an issue.  I don't go through super deep stuff, but tire height is about as deep as I've done and that got water to go through the clutch exhaust. 

Anyway, the Pros are that it looks good, I didn't have to cut the plastics, the airflow is now even for all intake and exhaust tubes at 2", where as the factory tubes vary in diameter.  No adverse issues under use.  Cons.  The panel that covers the area behind the seats does not fit nicely, back as it should.  The hose from the clutch exhaust is a bit too far forward, to allow the panel to seat as it should.  If I can find some flexible tube, I can probably get it to work better.  However, here's the big down side.  There is a reason the clutch exhaust is blown over the front header.  It gets hot!!!  With the panel not secured, any excess idling or slow speed running, will be noticeable, as heat will be surrounding you.  That's probably not a bad thing as fall approaches, but it was fairly unpleasent in the heat of the summer.  I'll probably post a full How To when I find some flexible tubing and rework my current setup.

How did you get the clutch to seal from that big boot to a 2" pvc?